On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:

I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from 
recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even 
sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.


51cm Sam just arrived, it is 2637 grams for the frame (including headset 
cups, water bottle bolts, and seat post binder bolt) and 844 grams for the 
fork (including crown race).

That's a chunky 792 grams heavier than my Waterford ST-22, 719 grams 
heavier than my Riv Road, but the fork is 38 grams _lighter_ than the fork 
on my ST-22, and only 23 grams heavier than the fork on my Riv Road.

I'm sure most of that extra weight is in the kickstand plate ;-)

Oh, and internet pictures don't do justice to the Periwinkle color. It's 
magnificent.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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