That's the issue, it isn't original. It had been repainted and decaled. I have no idea what the original color and decal situation was, although it seems like it probably did have Rivendell decals, but with more reserved paint.
The repaint was in 2001, so it's unlikely that any pictures exist of it in the original style. On Jul 14, 6:21 am, "Frederick, Steve" <frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote: > Cool, glad that's all cleared up! > > I sure wouldn't relable it--it's original as it sits, right? I'd keep it > that way...someday you'll be glad you did, I think. As will future scholars > that will write papers and delve deep into the history of the finest bicycles > made at the turn of the century. B-) > > Just sticking my nose and $.02 in. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:10 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: dat funky Riv > > The mystery has been solved, I am the new owner. > > It's a 1995 Prototype frame built by Waterford, this info was received > from the original owner and confirmed, with some corrections, by GP > and co. > > Should be labeled "Protovelo" and I'm currently working out the > details with GP to have it correctly labeled as such. > > Expect an updated post with the completed build with two month's time, > or so. > > On Jul 13, 10:23 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > The only way that all that effort would make any sense would be if you > > > wanted to make more. > > > Without seeing the paint in person, or at least in much better detail, > > it is hard to tell the quality. A reasonably competent photographer > > could make a rattle can job look pretty good. > > > In my opinion, the color choices on the bike were not that good. > > Guess JB would ultmately do whatever the customer wants, but I imagine > > he would have warned someone the colors do not go together all that > > well. > > > On Jul 13, 10:04 am, Joe Bartoe <jbar...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > I agree that if there were a forger that made fake Riv decals, then > > > they'd go whole hog on the JB decals, but wouldn't the painting and the > > > decal making be kind of a pain for one bike? If this is really a fake > > > Rivendell, I would expect that there are more. The only way that all that > > > effort would make any sense would be if you wanted to make more. > > > > Joe > > > Subject: RE: [RBW] dat funky Riv > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:30:27 -0400 > > > From: frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > > Re. > > > the JB paint job, if it is indeed labled with fake Riv decals/headbadge, I > > > doubt the forger would hesitate to put a fake JB signature on the > > > chainstay as > > > well... > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > > > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Grant > > > Petersen > > > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:20 PM > > > To: > > > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: [RBW] dat funky > > > Riv > > > > Well, now I know how Louis Vuitton feels (I've always > > > been curious). I've been know to have brain farts (and grain farts), > > > but I'm > > > thinking what lugs are those? They aren't ours. We did use Henry James > > > crowns > > > for about 20 frames for a while there, till we got our own. The > > > dropouts are > > > raised in back but not in front, and that wasn't a WF style back then. > > > The > > > fork rake looks a bit better than the early WF-builts (nowhere close to > > > post-'97). The seller may not know how to measure a chainstay, so I > > > can't go > > > by the 42cm listing (I think the shortest ever was 42.5). But mainly, > > > the > > > lugs. > > > > It seems odd to me. too, that JB would paint one that-a-way. Once > > > somebody owns it, it's their deal, and we don't hold JB to any style > > > (he > > > knows what I like, but a guy's got a right to make a living). I called > > > him > > > now, line's busy, I'll try again. > > > > The serial number would tell the > > > story. The seller de-listed it, I think. If it's a Riv underneath that > > > "pump > > > instead of seat tube" paint job, then fine etc., but at this point I'm > > > still > > > guessing it's not. > > > > G > > > -- > > > Grant > > > Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com > > > 925 933 7304 > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email > > > to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send > > > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, > > > visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > The New Busy is not the too busy. 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