Riv might even know the original colors, since they were able to find the
original invoice on it. Not that you couldn't pick your own, but it would be
interesting.


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Sean Whelan <strummer_...@yahoo.com>wrote:

> I believe that the folks in Walnut Creek will sell you the Decals and / or
> HeadBadge if you have the serial number / etc.
>
> You could get it painted with your favorite current color scheme, and just
> have a blast with it. I assume you got a deal on the frame, so investing in
> a nice paint job (or even adding a few braze-ons) might be the right
> approach.
>
> Nice Purchase, great mystery.
>
> Now... how are you going to build it up?
>
> cheers,
> Sean
>
> --- On *Wed, 7/14/10, Taylor <tpkr...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Taylor <tpkr...@gmail.com>
>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: dat funky Riv
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 10:38 AM
>
>
> That's the issue, it isn't original. It had been repainted and
> decaled. I have no idea what the original color and decal situation
> was, although it seems like it probably did have Rivendell decals, but
> with more reserved paint.
>
> The repaint was in 2001, so it's unlikely that any pictures exist of
> it in the original style.
>
>
> On Jul 14, 6:21 am, "Frederick, Steve" 
> <frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu<http://mc/compose?to=frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu>
> >
> wrote:
> > Cool, glad that's all cleared up!
> >
> > I sure wouldn't relable it--it's original as it sits, right?  I'd keep it
> that way...someday you'll be glad you did, I think.  As will future scholars
> that will write papers and delve deep into the history of the finest
> bicycles made at the turn of the century.  B-)
> >
> > Just sticking my nose and $.02 in.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 
> > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com>]On
> Behalf Of Taylor
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:10 PM
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: dat funky Riv
> >
> > The mystery has been solved, I am the new owner.
> >
> > It's a 1995 Prototype frame built by Waterford, this info was received
> > from the original owner and confirmed, with some corrections, by GP
> > and co.
> >
> > Should be labeled "Protovelo" and I'm currently working out the
> > details with GP to have it correctly labeled as such.
> >
> > Expect an updated post with the completed build with two month's time,
> > or so.
> >
> > On Jul 13, 10:23 am, JoelMatthews 
> > <joelmatth...@mac.com<http://mc/compose?to=joelmatth...@mac.com>>
> wrote:
> > > > The only way that all that effort would make any sense would be if
> you wanted to make more.
> >
> > > Without seeing the paint in person, or at least in much better detail,
> > > it is hard to tell the quality.  A reasonably competent photographer
> > > could make a rattle can job look pretty good.
> >
> > > In my opinion, the color choices on the bike were not that good.
> > > Guess JB would ultmately do whatever the customer wants, but I imagine
> > > he would have warned someone the colors do not go together all that
> > > well.
> >
> > > On Jul 13, 10:04 am, Joe Bartoe 
> > > <jbar...@hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jbar...@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > I agree that if there were a forger that made fake Riv decals, then
> they'd go whole hog on the JB decals, but wouldn't the painting and the
> decal making be kind of a pain for one bike? If this is really a fake
> Rivendell, I would expect that there are more. The only way that all that
> effort would make any sense would be if you wanted to make more.
> >
> > > > Joe
> > > > Subject: RE: [RBW] dat funky Riv
> > > > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:30:27 -0400
> > > > From: 
> > > > frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu<http://mc/compose?to=frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu>
> > > > To: 
> > > > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > > > Re.
> > > > the JB paint job, if it is indeed labled with fake Riv
> decals/headbadge, I
> > > > doubt the forger would hesitate to put a fake JB signature on the
> chainstay as
> > > > well...
> >
> > > > Steve
> >
> > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
> >
> > > >   
> > > > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com>
> > > >   
> > > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com>]On
> Behalf Of Grant
> > > >   Petersen
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:20 PM
> > > > To:
> > > >   
> > > > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [RBW] dat funky
> > > >   Riv
> >
> > > > Well, now I know how Louis Vuitton feels (I've always
> > > >   been curious). I've been know to have brain farts (and grain
> farts), but I'm
> > > >   thinking what lugs are those? They aren't ours. We did use Henry
> James crowns
> > > >   for about 20 frames for a while there, till we got our own. The
> dropouts are
> > > >   raised in back but not in front, and that wasn't a WF style back
> then. The
> > > >   fork rake looks a bit better than the early WF-builts (nowhere
> close to
> > > >   post-'97). The seller may not know how to measure a chainstay, so I
> can't go
> > > >   by the 42cm listing (I think the shortest ever was 42.5). But
> mainly, the
> > > >   lugs.
> >
> > > > It seems odd to me. too, that JB would paint one that-a-way. Once
> > > >   somebody owns it, it's their deal, and we don't  hold JB to any
> style (he
> > > >   knows what I like, but a guy's got a right to make a living). I
> called him
> > > >   now, line's busy, I'll try again.
> >
> > > > The serial number would tell the
> > > >   story. The seller de-listed it, I think. If it's a Riv underneath
> that "pump
> > > >   instead of seat tube" paint job, then fine etc., but at this point
> I'm still
> > > >   guessing it's not.
> >
> > > > G
> > > > --
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> > > > 925 933 7304
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