Jim,

At 09:08hrs you posted about cleaning tan sidewalls and suggested that
maybe you would switch to a tire with a black sidewall. Then at
10:14hrs you started this thread. Was this a calculated attack on the
sensibilities of some of the group members? Your first post kind of
sputtered but this one exploded! Who would have thought that something
as benign as a ziptie could bring so much angst to our community. By
history carbon bashing and trail have been the most divisive issues
but we crossed a line today. This aggression will not stand man.

--mike

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