Mike,

The S-A can indeed be mounted pretty far back, but the mfg warns
against it:

"Bent Frame Wire - A small number of saddles have been replaced in the
past two years due to frame wire bending during a ride. These first
happened exclusively with mountain bike riders doing extreme riding.
The majority of the frames that bent were using Thompson seat posts,
and others like them with the rail clamp centered over the top of the
seat post tube, and on seat posts with very short clamps. Many who
managed to bend rails also had their saddle set back as far as it will
go. The riders have been men and women of various weights on Standard
& Clydesdale models. The population of damaged saddles is so very
small we are at a loss to identify a cause. Engineers examine
offending saddles as they are returned. We replace these saddles with
the caveat that the rider use a seat post with longer section clamp
and more setback in the clamp. Anyone riding a saddle set back as far
as it will go on our rails is likely on a poorly fitting bike frame.
If your frame fits you appropriately, if the handlebars are properly
positioned (not too far away and too far down as is too common), and
if you have a well engineered seat post, your saddle will be
positioned in the middle of the rails. See the Seat Post section in
our Saddle & Handlebar Adjustment Procedure pamphlet that comes with
each saddle."

They aren't kidding.  Ask how I know...

Bill

On Jan 8, 7:06 pm, Mike S <mikeshalj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, an issue in my saddle selection is fore-aft adjustment. I wanted
> to try the Selle An-Atomica because it seems it can mounted much
> further back than a B.17, which I need on the bike it is for that has
> a too-short top tube. I would rather have the problem solved by a
> saddle than another $150 lugged nitto wayback post. How do the rails
> on the Berthoud compare with a B.17 and S.A?
>
> On Jan 8, 9:40 pm, Mike S <mikeshalj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I just bought a Selle An-Atomica LD Clydesdale saddle, mainly because
> > it was on sale for $133 and I'm intrigued by the design and that it's
> > MUSA. I'm wondering if I may have made a mistake by choosing this
> > saddle over the Berthoud, which I considered but deemed not worthy of
> > the higher cost.
>
> > I've been riding a B.17 for about 3000 miles so far and it seems to be
> > in real good shape and I am very comfortable on a B.17, but I'm
> > wondering if there is something better. My primary concerns are a ride
> > that is of maximum comfort, and I also want outstanding durability.
> > Can any Selle An-Atomica users vouch for it's longevity, and can
> > anyone compare the two (Berthoud & S.A)?
>
> > Although the B.17 has served me well so far, I am a little worried
> > about the longevity with a post-acquisition saddle, and I'm also
> > generally always looking for gear improvements. Is the verdict that
> > the Gilles Berthoud is the best bang for the buck, despite the higher
> > cost?
>
> > Also, my riding is always with the handlebars a few centimeters higher
> > than the saddle.
>
> > On Jan 8, 2:27 pm, Lee <leec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hey Rene. I just got mine in. Here's a brief visual comparison of the
> > > saddle vis-a-vis a B-17 Champion Special:
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/23eyb8o
>
> > > I've been slowly accumulating parts to upgrade my distance bike. The
> > > Aspin will replace a Selle An-Atomica, which will go to my saddle-less
> > > camping/utility bike. I had been switching my B-17S between my
> > > commuter (the Quickbeam) and the utility bike.
>
> > > Best,
> > > Lee
>
> > > On Jan 7, 3:47 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Thanks for all the responses. I'm ordering one tonight to try it. I
> > > > like the B17 except for its nose up position to prevent sliding
> > > > forward. Always thought it should be flatter.
>
> > > > Seems like the Berthoud Touring might make me completely happy.
>
> > > > René
>
> > > > Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> > > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> 
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >> Only reason I wouldn't try a 200 dollar saddle is if I can't return 
> > > > >> it.   It
> > > > >> looks to me to be a very well made comfortable saddle that has a 
> > > > >> benefit if
> > > > >> you buy thier saddle bags too.
>
> > > > >> I would also out of desperation try it if I didn't have comfortable 
> > > > >> saddles
> > > > >> now.
>
> > > > > wallbike.com
>
> > > > > 6month unconditional return guarantee.
>
> > > > > -sv
>
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