At what cost though ? Concrete cracks and weathers and weeds grow through it just as it does with asphalt. It costs quite a bit to maintain roadways.........less autos = less money for maintenance= more bicycles with wide tires ! Have you ever watched any of those ridiculous doomsday movies that show how New York city would look after 1000 years, its amazing what doesn't survive the elements and the test of time. Just sayin ! cheers : )
On Jan 28, 6:21 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > This is part of where I was coming from in that road maintenance can't > > be done without petroleum, at least not good asphalt. And boy do we > > bicyclists love a good road surface. > > Flat out wrong. > > If there were fewer vehicles, we would not need as many streets/roads > and those we would have would be subject to less stress. Ergo, we > could use hardened cement which when done right is both more cush to > ride on and durable than cheapo asphalt streets. > > On Jan 27, 8:51 pm, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > This is part of where I was coming from in that road maintenance can't > > be done without petroleum, at least not good asphalt. And boy do we > > bicyclists love a good road surface.Taking things to the extreme also > > stirs thought and responses so.......following the Grok idea to the > > extreme would lead to the most "green" way of life. Talk about low > > impact on the environment. > > I am aware that transitions from a sophisticated society to a > > primitive one are slower under normal circumstances. I often think of > > the ancient Egyptians, do we really know how technologically advanced > > they were? How much do we know of their understanding of medicine and > > science etc. ? How much information has survived of other ancient > > cultures and how sophisticated were they really? > > As an aside we've been on the paleolithic diet for a few weeks, more > > or less and its making a difference and I hope it will pay off when I > > bicycle. I'm definitely "down with" going electric, automobile wise > > also and may even try a motor on a cargo bike some day since I am a > > full 25 miles from the big city. > > What does this shotgun approach to posting have to do with Rivendell ? > > It seems Grant writes about stuff like this and I enjoy it when he > > does. One thing I do know is that I can hardly wait to get a dyno hub > > and generate my own electricity while bicycling. > > > On Jan 27, 6:08 pm, benzzoy <benz...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 27, 10:54 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > My brother, you paint too gloomy a picture. If we run out of fossil > > > > fuels-there's more than one way skin a cat. All cars, trucks, trains > > > > (don't know about planes) will be electric, so buy GE stock early. > > > > You seem to only acknowledge that oil is for burning. However, oil is > > > used for far more than burning for energy to power our cars, make > > > electricity, etc. For example, almost all plastic and rubber is made > > > from oil. Fertilizers that enabled the green revolution (this has > > > nothing to do with being eco-friendly) are mostly made from fossil > > > fuel (natural gas), so you are essentially eating oil. Even fairly > > > recent innovations like pharmaceuticals are made from organic > > > compounds that are derived from oil. This entire world basically runs > > > on oil, and I'm not only taking transportation. > > > > It is surprising that not more people realize that. Should we really > > > be burning however many gallons per mile of this precious resource, > > > instead of using it for, for example, life-saving drugs or useful > > > plastic items? > > > > -B- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
