Not necessarily that short but tall......way tall so that the grip area is level or higher than the saddle. Due to the head tube angle going higher also brings the bar back toward you so don't get too extreme just use some common sense. As far as the 'instability' idea that's just an idea (actually more like an interpretation) my word was "squirrely" and what I meant by that is that it put my weight too far back making the front end light which made me less confident. I don't use a front rack or load the front end heavily and I am heavy in the gut so too much rearward weight distribution made my bike (not a Rivendell) feel light in the front end. I prefer more equal weight distribution in regard to riding position and that depends on several things. I would personally not use any straight bar and prefer a bar with a handshake position option of the hand on the bar. My favorite bar however is the Nitto Randonneur bar. This is a narrow bar with the hoods being only 36cm wide but I like it and it helps me now with my shoulder being injured after crashing on the ice. My drop bars Rando and Noodle (two different bikes) are both several cm above saddle height and that works for me YMMV. What works for any rider depends on their anatomy....I have short arms relative to my leg length so I take that into account whereas a long arm and torso but short legged rider might have a completely different comfort position.
On Jul 2, 9:25 pm, rw1911 <rw1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks all for the feedback. It sounds like I would need a very short > stem 6-7cm for the M-bars and probably a 12 for the A-bars... > > All this talk of instability at speed has me now questioning the > Albatross, which I was favoring. Perhaps I should consider a > straight(ish) bar or maybe something with a little more flexibility > like the Jitensha bar (which appears to be an abbreviated, somewhat > cross between the two)? > > FWIW, I have the Noodles just about level with the saddle. > > Thoughts? > > On Jul 2, 12:23 pm, clyde canter <clyde.can...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Shorter for the 'stach and longer for the 'tross, definately. I've tried > > both and the only setup that felt good to me was the 'tach bars on a bike > > that was too small, ie short top tube and an upjutting (40 deg) stem. > > Problem there is getting them high enough. The "tross bars came close on my > > Hillborne, but there's something about those bars at speed that's > > disconcerting for me. I'll borrow the term "squirrley. That's a good > > descriptor. The "at speed" part got me to thinking the albatross might be a > > good bar for a fixed application. Hitting my top cadence in their upright > > position was interesting to say the least. Also, I almost crashed when > > reaching all the way down there for a bottle. All this has me fondly > > remembering my more flexible lower back of years past. I now have my 48 > > noodles a whopping 2 1/2 to 3 inches above my saddle and that is my mostest > > favoritest set up for everything. I should note that the only bikes I have > > that will allow this are my Rivendells. Thanks Grant. > > High bars and fluffy tires, > > Clyde > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise > > > for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache > > > bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My > > > Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the > > > mark with Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted > > > my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle > > > but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I > > > went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good > > > for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's..... > > > although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height > > > and the normal grip at least level with the saddle. > > > > On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 <rw1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be > > > > a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) > > > > > Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or > > > > Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem > > > > length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the > > > > Noddle? > > > > > I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and > > > > a slightly shorter for the Moustache? > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
