I really like the Atlantis too and have wanted one for some time; I
love the color.  I am sure it would do all I would want it to do.  For
now though the $500 price difference is important and I'd be really
happy with the Hunqapillar so I cannot see spending the extra money on
the Atlantis.  I am not really a fan of two tubes either, but with a
54 Hunqapillar that's not a concern.

As for bars: I'd likely go with drops as I find them most comfortable,
but I could be persuaded to go with Bullmoose bars too.  Who knows.

Atlantis or Hunqapillar: Either way I'd be thrilled to own a Rivendell
and have a bike, again, that I can use for fully loaded touring in any
conditions.  I'll try both when I am out there and see how it goes.
I'll try the Sam too.  My only hesitation with the Sam is that I do
want something that really has no limitations in terms of load,
terrain, etc.  Perhaps the Sam does not and I am mistaken.  But it
seems to me that if one wants a go anywhere touring bike then it's
either Atlantis/Hunq/Bombadil.  My Terraferma can do most things but
it'll snap in half under a big load and I want to keep it set up like
it is--as a pretty speedy long distance road bike.

Best wishes,

Christian

On Jul 7, 10:22 am, Larry Powers <lapower...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Per Riv:
>
> The Atlantis is our most versatile bike, our best-seller, and as evidence of 
> its mature design, is virtually unchanged since we introduced it as our first 
> production bike in 1999.75. It is ideal for loaded touring, trail riding, 
> commuting, and general riding where you're likely to want tires 35mm wide or 
> wider most of the time, and fenders a lot of the time. Around here, we have a 
> saying: You can do anything on an Atlantis. Because you can.
>
> The Atlantis is a stout over built road touring bike.  Riv lists its heaviest 
> use as loaded touring (road touring is implied).  The heaviest use of the 
> Bombadil is loaded trail touring so by Riv standards this bike is built for 
> heavier use.  By normal standards both are over built and bomb proof.  I 
> would not hesitate to do an off road tour on my Atlantis.  
>
> Maybe someone can shed some light on this.  Based on the way Rivendell shows 
> the bikes in pictures the Atlantis seems to be designed as a road bike and is 
> optimzed for drop bars.  The Bombadil seems to be designed as a mountain bike 
> and is optimized for upright bars.  The Atlantis is built heavier then most 
> production mountain bikes and in the past people have built them up with 
> upright bars and used them for trail and mountain bikes.  As Riv says you can 
> do anything on an Atlantis.  I think the Bombadil is just optimizing a bike 
> for this use.  
>
> Different bikes for different people and uses.  My Atlantis is built up for 
> loaded road touring but dirt roads and single track could be toured as well.  
> Aesthetically I do not like the double top tubes and none is offered on any 
> of the Atlantis sizes.  I don't mind the extra lateral tube but the Atlantis 
> does not suffer from not having one.  If I were to own one bike it would be 
> the Atlantis.  It is probably the most versatile bike for me (I have no 
> interest in riding anything more technical then smooth single track).  I am 
> lucky enough to own several several bicycles and between them I can choose 
> the one most suited to the ride of the day.
>
> The only point to this is that the Atlantis should not be dismissed because 
> it the oldest bike in the Riv stable.  It has lasted this long for a reason 
> so take a good look at all of the frames and pick the one that you like best 
> and get out and ride.
>
> Larry Powers
>
> Rambouillet
> Atlantis
> Quickbeam
>
> Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?
> > From: palin...@his.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:08:58 -0400
>
> > On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 20:25 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote:
> > > How light a rider and load are we talking about here? I'm confused
> > > because before there was any Hunqapiller or any Bomba, the Atlantis
> > > was marketed as a touring bike. Now it's only a touring bike for light
> > > riders with light loads?
>
> > You're right, that's nonsense. The Atlantis is hugely overbuilt for a
> > bike suitable only for "light touring" and light riders.
>
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