Good advice so far.  Everyone rides 200ks different - some pack like
they're on a min-tour, others take almost nothing but gu packs and
water.

Here's what I would bring: very little.  Wear wool and you won't need
layers.  On a cool day, a LS wool jersey (ie. Woolistic) with a wool t-
shirt underneath will do everything you need.  I wear Ibex wool
kinckers.  If you want to go hobo-style with layers of wool t-shirts
and a seersucker, the most you'll need to pack is a windbreaker.  If
its wet out, the wool jersey will do fine in light precipitation, if
its really raining, a some kind of rain jacket might be in order.  I
wouldn't ride in cotton, as it will wear on you (rather than vice-
versa).

As for the contents of luggage, bring an extra tail light, 3 or 4
"bars" (Paydays, fig bars, etc that can be replenished at controls),
enough electrolyte pills to ward off cramps (one per hour), two tubes
and a patch kit.  Really - what else do you need for a 200 or 300K?
That's one bag.  Front bag is always preferable.  Rear bag means
you'll get off the bike to access stuff.

On a randonee, the things like weight matter.  Over time, overpacking
will wear you down.  Light is good.

On Nov 11, 7:34 am, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote:
> As Bruce said, I would work backwards from the list or pile of stuff
> you will want to carry and then look to a set of bags that hold it in
> the places you will want it on the bike.  My Roadeo is similar to the
> Rambouillet in design and I think it is safe to project some of my
> loading experience to your situation.  The bike will handle just fine
> with a load, although how big and where you put it will make a
> difference.  Here is a pic of my Roadeo set up for last winter.
>
> http://oceanaircycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Roadeo-fenders-1...
>
> I have since put on a larger saddle bag, and cary lighter things in
> the Hobo style bag up front.  While never terrible, much more than 8
> lbs in the front was never as nice as less or nothing.  I load things
> from front to rear with frequencey of use and  then weight being the
> controling factors.
>
> I thnk your hopes of using one bag are possible. I realy like the Hobo
> style of bags, but would move the tools to a roll under the saddle to
> get some weight to the rear.  If you need to carry more bulky winter
> layers then a carradice or sackville may be in order.  One of the
> barsac options will support a map, but just do not be tempted to
> overlod it as you only bag.
>
> The most important thing is to get out there and ride, prove all this
> loading crap to yourself, and learn what you like.  NEVER let all the
> keybooard analysis keep you from riding the rides that you want to
> do.  I, as many of us, survived years of long rides with a backpack,
> lots of memories and survived to tell the tale.  You would be amazed
> what you can do with a camel back from the clearance table.
>
> Rob
> -http://oceanaircycles.com/
>
> On Nov 11, 7:11 am, Bruce Herbitter <bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I just set out on my 1st 300K last weekend, on a Saluki. I used a L'il
> > loafer on a nitto mini front rack and a large Acorn saddlebag behind. I
> > packed an extra baselayer and socks for when it would get colder/damper
> > after Sundown, second pair of gloves, a spare tire, 2 spare tubes, 1st aid
> > kit, lots of food, tool kit, extra batteries, extra lights, and a recharger
> > for the cell phone & Garmin. I had room to stow a Showers Pass touring
> > jacket which came off during the warmer hours of late morning to early
> > afternoon. I did not have excess storage room going to waste. If you plan
> > to pack lighter, you'd need less.
>
> > Something big enough to hold it all will probably be a saddle bag. You can
> > hang a bar tube for assorted odds and ends you want close at hand, and use
> > a clip on type cue sheet holder.
>
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:19 AM, John <lindbergj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > One of my goals for 2012 will be to complete my first brevet -
> > > probably a 200K for starters.  I need to add a bag to my Rambouillet.
> > > I'm thinking of starting with one bag - hoping that will be enough for
> > > this type of ride.  Would you recommend a front bag or rear bag?  I
> > > know the front bag would give me a place for my map, but not sure if
> > > there are other factors I should be considering.
>
> > > Feel free to reply directly to lindbergj...@hotmail.com
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > John
>
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