Jim, it's a combination definitely not found in nature!

Steve, I've built up some ghetto tubeless for some friends and really
like the results. Those were all 2.0+ tires though. I know they do
tubeless road set ups, but I don't know if anyone has done an off the
label sort of thing. Paselas are extra bizarre as they are way to fat
for "road" tires but too skinny for MTB.

Rob, I thought about filling the tubes. I Slime my kid's tires by
slicing the tube, filling them and patching, but that stuff is messy
inside and out. Stans is so much cleaner IMHO, especially w/ removable
core. Might be an intermediate option. I've read about the tire
degradation problem, and that might be the biggest concern. Paselas
are a bit fragile already, and the ammonia would probably really eat
them up. Thanks for reminding me about that!

Bill, I REALLY love my Paselas. I looked at the Hypers, but was
reluctant to go that route. Looked as Marathon Supremes as well, but
really, ain't nothin' stopping goatheads that I want to ride. I want
puncture resistance you get from tubeless w/out the heavy clunky tire
& tube combo you really need.  So far I've been dealing with it, but
man, I patch a lot of tubes...


THANKS for the thoughts!

On 1/21/12, Bill M. <bmenn...@comcast.net> wrote:
> My only road tubeless experience is vicarious.  One of our bike club
> members has a tubeless setup with Dura Ace wheels and tubeless-
> specific 23 mm tires.  I've seen him DNF two club rides because of
> flats due to sealing problems.  I'd pass on trying it with Paselas.
>
> There are tires that are more flat resistant than a Pasela TG and
> still ride well (e.g. Vittoria Randonneur Pro or Hyper), but they
> aren't goathead-proof.  Even the standard Schwalbe Marathon was
> vulnerable IME.  I suspect the only solutions are really heavy tires
> like the Marathon Plus (890 gm in 35 mm) or tubes with Slime/Stan's.
>
> I'll also put out something that's probably heretical around here - I
> get more punctures on wide tires than I ever do on skinny ones.  I
> think those nice, fat, soft  650 tires sweep up every goathead in
> their path, while hard, skinny racing tires skip in between them.  I
> gave up on the lovely Pacenti Paris-Moto tires because I was averaging
> a flat every 30 miles or so.  I wore through a set of even-lovelier
> Vittoria Open CX's (25 mm, 90 psi) with one, maybe two punctures over
> the life of the tires.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jan 20, 11:47 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Today I pulled my Rivy down from the hook and find the rear tire flat.
>> <a
>> href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6733538469/in/photostream/";>Yep,
>> another goathead. </a> I don't know how often this happens, but lets
>> just say I've gone through a 100 pack of Rema tubes in the last few
>> years! So I'm kinda' considering going tubeless with this bike. Sun
>> CR-18 rims and 35mm Paselas. I have my 29er set up that way and love
>> it, but have Stans rims etc.
>>
>> Any experiences positive or negative with a set up like this?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> David
>> Redlands, CA
>>
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