Thanks william Yes I have a brifter. I probably did say all the parts
were worn out- what I mean where the cassettes and chainrings. I was
trying to figure out how much weight I would save by changing to a
double , then I got all side tracked wondering how much better the
bike could be for not too much extra cost. One lb is not that much and
it does add a lot of cost to redo the whole thing unnecessaril.

On Apr 6, 9:31 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A 'brifter' is a shifter that is part of the brake lever.
> Brake-lever-shifter = Brifter.  If your brakelevers and shiftlevers are
> integrated into the same unit, you have brifters.
>
> The group might have taken you sideways into a "million dollar project" in
> part because your original post said:
>
> "I want to rebuild it from the bottom up, as the
> components.... were completely worn out. "
>
> If only your drivetrain parts are worn out, and you love everything about
> your bike otherwise, then by all means get a new cassette the same size as
> you have now, get three new chainrings, and a new chain, and be happy.
> 100-200 in parts, plus labor, maybe get cables and housing and handlebar
> tape and brakepads and it will feel and look like a new bike.
>
> If you want to totally reconfigure your drivetrain to a double in front,
> there may be weight savings, but it will almost certainly be less than a
> pound of savings, and could easily add another $200-$500 to the project,
> and might force you into shifter choices that you regret if you've loved
> what you have been running.
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 6, 2012 6:37:37 PM UTC-7, dr...@charter.net wrote:
>
> > Well I want my bike to be beautiful too. I want indexed shifters, not
> > bar end as I am used to them. I am thinking about going to a double
> > crank. From everything I have read here is would be lighter, and I
> > could still get a good gear range for  touring,a lthough I would have
> > to get a rear MB derailer. It is hard for me to conceive that with a
> > 42 front ring that I could get a high enough gear for flats to cruise
> > on.. but from what i can tell it seems that you all think a triple
> > chain ring in the front is very repetitive. Am still not sure if I
> > have to replace my 105 Shimano indexed shifters if I just decide to
> > change to a double crank and different rear cassette. Can you clarify
> > please.? What is a brifter?I think the first thing to decide is double
> > or triple crank and rear cassette and then figure out if I have to
> > replace   my current derailers and shifters if I do that.  The rings
> > were  the reason that I took the bike apart in the first place, as
> > they were the only parts that were really worn out.. now here I am
> > with half my bike sitting next to this computer desk in a big pile and
> > this is turning into a million dollar project. I can probably afford
> > to redo the whole thing, but do not necessarily feel the need to do
> > that. I kind of like to use things up and recycle etc.
>
> > On Apr 6, 9:17 am, islaysteve <alkire...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > dr (original poster):  I agree you have a lot to consider and digest
> > here.
> > > You a debating compact double vs. triple cranks, for one thing.  As for
> > > myself, I've always had a double, and used 105 STI 'brifters'.  They
> > have
> > > performed so well for me that I see no reason to leave them.  The
> > mainline
> > > Rivendell philosophy favors non-indexed bar-end shifters, and lots of
> > folks
> > > here go that way.  However one good thing about Riv and this forum is
> > that
> > > there's a wide tolerance for individuality and using what works for you.
> > > Along those lines, I'd suggest that you may first want to decide on your
> > > shifting system.  I believe that you have been using STI?  If you like
> > it,
> > > you'll likely not want to change.  I've heard (and not confirmed, and
> > > others here may correct me) that triples are a bit more finicky for
> > > brifters.  But you were running a triple anyway, so would have your own
> > > experience.  As Jim and others have mentioned, you can go to a compact
> > > double and still have a wide gear range.  That's what I am going to work
> > > toward on my bike.  I also admit to considering it an object of "beauty"
> > > and consider that when choosing parts.  I got a very nice-looking Sugino
> > > Alpina compact double and that's what I'm sticking with.  You may not be
> > > able to keep your 105 RD if you opt for a larger cassette; but as
> > mentioned
> > > above, you can get a good Shimano mtn derailleur that will handle the
> > > larger cogs and should be just as reliable as what you are used to.
> >  Good
> > > luck, Steve

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