I think the end result of the Rivendell kid's bike was that a prototype was made but in the end it was going to be too expensive for a kid's bike.
On Friday, June 22, 2012 2:49:44 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > A good kid MTB to consider is the Specialized Hotrock 24. I'm very happy > with the one we have. Enough so to buy a second for kid #2! You already > have a 24", but if you find a cheap used Hotrock, check it out. The newer > ones are de-contented a bit over the ones a few years old. > > I'm really obsessed on weight of kid bikes. More so than mine!!! So many > weigh in at, or over 30lbs. That's 50% of my kid's weight! It's like 170# > me trying to ride a 85lbs bike up a hill! The Hotrock is lighter (forget > what exactly, maybe 25#???) than most other 24" bikes, and the > aforementioned Conquest 24 is super-light for the segment. Somewhere around > 20 IIRC. > > I mentioned it before, but so wish someone would be a distributor for > Islabikes > <http://www.islabikes.co.uk/>here in NA. They really seem to get the kid > thing and have really focused on the market. This is the bike I would love > to have for my kid: http://www.islabikes.co.uk/bike_pages/luath26.html > > Anywho, wasn't Grant mentioning a kid-bike recently? That will be a really > interesting development in the marketplace. It would be one of those > investments that keep on giving for a long time! I think it was 20" though, > so my kids are pretty much sized out consideration. > > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean < > thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> I basically gave up looking for a "quality" kids bike. Even with my >> almost-10-year-old's love/like of cycling, he's only going to ride a few >> hundred miles a year, if that. We'll go on 10-15 mile rides many >> good-weather wekeends. But ride while cold? Nope. Raining? No way. Too hot? >> Not a chance. It's not his fault. Not everyone loves "bicycle cycling" the >> way I do. So while he notices when his knees hit his handlebar (which >> prompted us to get him a 24"-wheeled bike to replace his 20"-wheeled bike >> the day we saw it happen), he *doesn't* notice/care when his seat is too >> low or his tires are squirmy or his arms are somewhat stretched or the bike >> feels "funny" or "dead" or "twitchy". I've observed him riding enough to >> feel okay about the safety of his fit and his "seat" on his new bike. But I >> couldn't rationalize spending the money to go to the next level at this >> point. >> Now, the way he's growing, it wouldn't surprise me if he could ride a >> 48cm Hillborne in a few years. Even more likely a 50cm Betty. If his desire >> to ride grows along with his limbs, that's not out of the question at all. >> My wife could ride the Betty once he's outgrown it. And he'd get a chance >> to experience unracer riding before completely choosing his own bike. >> Until then, though, it's a cheap-and-heavy-but-not-totally-crappy >> Novara pseudo-quasi-mountain bike with a suspension he'll never compress >> and a top tube he'll comfortably span only when his knees bruise his chest >> while riding. Who designs these things? It couldn't possibly stand up to >> actual mountain biking. And the only thing the suspension adds to normal >> road/trail riding is weight. (At least it *is* a somewhat lighter than >> my totally be-racked/be-fendered/be-leathered double-top-tube 60cm >> Hillborne with a 40-spoke Phil-hubbed Cliffhanger rear wheel and wood >> grips. I bet if I stripped the racks to just the R-50 saddlebag >> quick-release, replaced the wood grips with cork, and left everything else >> the same it'd go the other way. As it is his is not that much lighter.) >> Oh well... at least I know it was put together by someone who wasn't >> completely stoned. (My experiences with non-REI LBSes in my area has been >> bad, to say the least. I haven't been back to one since my front wheel and >> fork fell out while loading my "repaired" bike onto the rack on the back of >> my car. They hadn't clamped the stem to the steerer "very well".) >> Fortunately, so far the doesn't have to deal with his father's biggest >> (biking) problem: excessive (engine) weight. >> >> Yours, >> Thomas Lynn Skean >> >> On Friday, June 22, 2012 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Thanks Seth, that's a really nice bike! >>> >>> I'm so tired of 20" kid bikes that weigh more than my 29er. >>> >>> FWIW, the best production non-MTB kid bike I can find is the Redline >>> Conquest 24. It's not perfect, but best option out there that I have >>> latched on to. >>> >>> Anybody know of small sized (<45cm) cross bikes w/ 26" wheels? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: >>> >>> The discussion of good kids' bikes comes up from time to time. >>>> >>>> I caught this today on fastboy cycles' blog/flickr feed and I thought >>>> some of y'all may be intrigued: >>>> >>>> http://www.fastboycycles.com/**teachingcancertocry/?p=829<http://www.fastboycycles.com/teachingcancertocry/?p=829> >>>> and >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**fastboy/7419479154<http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastboy/7419479154> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> thought some of y'all might find it interesting. >>>> >>>> -sv >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> David >>> Redlands, CA >>> >>> ** >>> “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an >>> America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. 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