I think the end result of the Rivendell kid's bike was that a prototype was 
made but in the end it was going to be too expensive for a kid's bike. 


On Friday, June 22, 2012 2:49:44 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> A good kid MTB to consider is the Specialized Hotrock 24. I'm very happy 
> with the one we have. Enough so to buy a second for kid #2! You already 
> have a 24", but if you find a cheap used Hotrock, check it out. The newer 
> ones are de-contented a bit over the ones a few years old.
>
> I'm really obsessed on weight of kid bikes. More so than mine!!! So many 
> weigh in at, or over 30lbs. That's 50% of my kid's weight! It's like 170# 
> me trying to ride a 85lbs bike up a hill! The Hotrock is lighter (forget 
> what exactly, maybe 25#???) than most other 24" bikes, and the 
> aforementioned Conquest 24 is super-light for the segment. Somewhere around 
> 20 IIRC.
>
> I mentioned it before, but so wish someone would be a distributor for 
> Islabikes 
> <http://www.islabikes.co.uk/>here in NA. They really seem to get the kid 
> thing and have really focused on the market. This is the bike I would love 
> to have for my kid: http://www.islabikes.co.uk/bike_pages/luath26.html 
>
> Anywho, wasn't Grant mentioning a kid-bike recently? That will be a really 
> interesting development in the marketplace. It would be one of those 
> investments that keep on giving for a long time! I think it was 20" though, 
> so my kids are pretty much sized out consideration.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean <
> thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>  I basically gave up looking for a "quality" kids bike. Even with my 
>> almost-10-year-old's love/like of cycling, he's only going to ride a few 
>> hundred miles a year, if that. We'll go on 10-15 mile rides many 
>> good-weather wekeends. But ride while cold? Nope. Raining? No way. Too hot? 
>> Not a chance. It's not his fault. Not everyone loves "bicycle cycling" the 
>> way I do. So while he notices when his knees hit his handlebar (which 
>> prompted us to get him a 24"-wheeled bike to replace his 20"-wheeled bike 
>> the day we saw it happen), he *doesn't* notice/care when his seat is too 
>> low or his tires are squirmy or his arms are somewhat stretched or the bike 
>> feels "funny" or "dead" or "twitchy". I've observed him riding enough to 
>> feel okay about the safety of his fit and his "seat" on his new bike. But I 
>> couldn't rationalize spending the money to go to the next level at this 
>> point.
>>  Now, the way he's growing, it wouldn't surprise me if he could ride a 
>> 48cm Hillborne in a few years. Even more likely a 50cm Betty. If his desire 
>> to ride grows along with his limbs, that's not out of the question at all. 
>> My wife could ride the Betty once he's outgrown it. And he'd get a chance 
>> to experience unracer riding before completely choosing his own bike.
>>  Until then, though, it's a cheap-and-heavy-but-not-totally-crappy 
>> Novara pseudo-quasi-mountain bike with a suspension he'll never compress 
>> and a top tube he'll comfortably span only when his knees bruise his chest 
>> while riding. Who designs these things? It couldn't possibly stand up to 
>> actual mountain biking. And the only thing the suspension adds to normal 
>> road/trail riding is weight. (At least it *is* a somewhat lighter than 
>> my totally be-racked/be-fendered/be-leathered double-top-tube 60cm 
>> Hillborne with a 40-spoke Phil-hubbed Cliffhanger rear wheel and wood 
>> grips. I bet if I stripped the racks to just the R-50 saddlebag 
>> quick-release, replaced the wood grips with cork, and left everything else 
>> the same it'd go the other way. As it is his is not that much lighter.)
>>  Oh well... at least I know it was put together by someone who wasn't 
>> completely stoned. (My experiences with non-REI LBSes in my area has been 
>> bad, to say the least. I haven't been back to one since my front wheel and 
>> fork fell out while loading my "repaired" bike onto the rack on the back of 
>> my car. They hadn't clamped the stem to the steerer "very well".)
>>  Fortunately, so far the doesn't have to deal with his father's biggest 
>> (biking) problem: excessive (engine) weight.
>>  
>> Yours,
>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>
>> On Friday, June 22, 2012 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Seth, that's a really nice bike!
>>>
>>> I'm so tired of 20" kid bikes that weigh more than my 29er.
>>>
>>> FWIW, the best production non-MTB kid bike I can find is the Redline 
>>> Conquest 24. It's not perfect, but best option out there that I have 
>>> latched on to.
>>>
>>> Anybody know of small sized (<45cm) cross bikes w/ 26" wheels?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>
>>> The discussion of good kids' bikes comes up from time to time.
>>>>
>>>> I caught this today on fastboy cycles' blog/flickr feed and I thought
>>>> some of y'all may be intrigued:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.fastboycycles.com/**teachingcancertocry/?p=829<http://www.fastboycycles.com/teachingcancertocry/?p=829>
>>>> and
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**fastboy/7419479154<http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastboy/7419479154>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thought some of y'all might find it interesting.
>>>>
>>>> -sv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>> Redlands, CA
>>>
>>> **
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