My '95 Road Standard is a 56 measured center to top (about 54 center to center), and has a 57 top tube. This frame is maybe 2 cm smaller, the head lugs nearly touch and there's no room for a pump peg, so I'd say 54 center to top. My head tube is 14 cm, but the one in the listing lacks the extension above the upper head lug, so an 11 cm head tube adds up. It has enough headset spacers to make up for the missing extension. If the top tube is really 57, it may have been a custom geometry. Or it got changed when the frame was rebuilt.
I think it's unlikely that the replacement front end has the original 753 tubing. Riv's 753 tubes were drawn to Grant's specifications with thicker walls and longer butts than a standard 753 set, and by 2003 even standard 753 was obsolete. It could have 853 tubes, or True Temper. Fork blades, probably whatever Waterford was using at the time, probably not 531. At least it still has the pretty lugs and head badge. Picky detail - note that in picture 21, the Simplex binder bolt is not installed correctly. The flats should be vertical, so the nut sits fully inside the lug. Bill On Saturday, June 23, 2012 4:19:52 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote: > > That's a really nice frame too. I wonder about the accuracy of the > seller's description. A 57 cm top tube on a 54 frame doesn't compute to me. > But I could be wrong. > > I have a PBH similar to the original poster's and a 57 top tube would be > way too long for me. > > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 4:07:37 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: >> >> Perhaps this 54 might work? >> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200779652699&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123 >> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Brian Campbell >> <bdcampbel...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Mis-read. Sorry! Still a sweet bike. It is my size, that is why I keep >>> thinking about it! >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, June 23, 2012 6:02:03 PM UTC-4, Aaron Thomas wrote: >>>> >>>> That's a sweet looking Road Standard. But a 59cm is way too big for an >>>> 82 cm PBH. For 82, you're talking about a frame in the 53-55 cm range. >>>> >>>> O >>>> >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L1BxeegVqaoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
