I highly recommend the pedal spikes that Riv sells.  I found that the Grip 
Kings became much less grippy when they got wet.  After adding the spikes 
(which really aren't spikes, but more of a flat topped screw) my feet do not 
slip one bit when riding in rain, dry, whatever.  

FWIW, my riding shoes are the cycling version of the Keen Coronado, which are a 
bit like firmer, wider Chuck Taylors - flat rubber bottoms.

Steve

On Jul 17, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Rex Kerr wrote:

> I had some 5% back store credit burning a hole in my rivbike.com account, so 
> I recently made a "purchase".  (Thanks guys!)  Part of my order was a pair of 
> King Grip pedals.  Did my first ride with them today and thought I'd share my 
> thoughts for those who are considering them.
> 
> The ride was my normal 10 mile commute, unseasonably cool with a slight 
> breeze.  Rode in my size 14 Chaco sandals, with socks (fashion at its best!) 
> due to the cooler temperatures.
> 
> Last night I installed the pedals.  They were surprisingly light.  They look 
> very bulky and heavy, but when I held them I was pleasantly surprised.  Too 
> lazy to find the grease, so I put a dab of wax based chain lube on the 
> threads and figured the existing grease in the crank arms would be 
> sufficient.  The spindles have both hex flats for a 14 mm pedal wrench and 
> recessed holes for an allen wrench.  I used the flats since I already had the 
> pedal wrench in hand from removing the MKS touring pedals.
> 
> The MKS touring pedals were bothering me in that I was constantly suffering 
> from pedal strike.  I tried, seriously, to teach myself how close they were 
> to the ground, but it seemed that even on the most subtle of turns they would 
> touch the ground.  The King Grip pedals, on the other hand, had amazing 
> clearance.  I pedaled through every turn, even some that I shouldn't have and 
> couldn't get them to hit the ground.  I tried standing with one foot low and 
> swerving back and forth on the bike trail trying to get them to touch, and 
> they didn't.  They had GREAT clearance!  (Grant responded to my previous 
> complaints about the MKS pedals, indicating that the King Grips had the best 
> clearance of the pedals they sell)
> 
> On the MKS pedals I have been using powergrip straps.  I didn't miss the 
> attachment at all with the King Grip pedals as the platform held the shoe in 
> place well.
> 
> Overall they were good pedals.  My concern, though, is that they felt too 
> narrow.  I felt like I had to keep my feet in just the right place to keep 
> them centered over the pedal, and yet I was still pushing against the straps 
> of my sandals as my foot wanted to migrate outwards.  It may be because I 
> tend to pedal somewhat toe out, and on my old Speedplay Frog pedals I always 
> special ordered them with extra long spindles, but I think that I'd also 
> prefer a longer spindle with the King Grip pedal so that I could feel like my 
> foot was actually on the pedal.  Maybe I should try them with a set of those 
> "knee saver" spacer, but I don't have any available.  I also quickly 
> understood why some here have been adding an extra support along the outer 
> edge and am somewhat tempted to go back through the archives and see who was 
> selling those and try to modify these accordingly.
> 
> Anyhow, hope that this quick review is helpful to anybody considering these 
> pedals...
> 
> -Rex
> 
> 
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