Jim:

Is the lower horizontal bar on the R-15 intended for pannier mounting?  

An irritation that I have about the Nitto big back racks is the awkwardness 
of using the platform with panniers installed.  I've seen other mfgs racks 
with a second set of bars a couple of inches below the platform.  The 
second set allows unobstructed use of the platform with panniers 
installed.  IMHO the Nitto big back rack would be much improved by a second 
set of bars and eliminating the angle braces that seem to mostly get in the 
way of things.

dougP

On Monday, November 5, 2012 9:59:22 AM UTC-8, Jim Cloud wrote:
>
> I've had a set of the small, but very nicely made, Gilles Berthoud 
> GB799 panniers for several years and I've used them for some short 
> tours.  Originally, I had them mounted on one of the Nitto Campee rear 
> racks that are made with detachable low-CG grates 
> (here:  
> http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=874 
> ). 
>
> The Berthoud GB799 panniers weren't well suited to the Campee rack, 
> which seemed outsized compared to the pannier bags.  I've subsequently 
> sold my Campee rack. 
>
> Recently, pretty much by serendipity, I happened to find some on-line 
> photos that showed the Nitto R-15 rear rack on a couple of bikes. 
> That rack looked quite suitable for the GB799 panniers, so I ordered 
> the rack from Ben's Cycle.  I mounted it on my Rivendell Road Standard 
> and I've been very pleased with the match to my Berthoud panniers! 
>
> The Nitto R-15 rack appears to have been purpose designed for the 
> Gilles Berthoud GB799 panniers - if it wasn't they certainly conform 
> to the rack quite perfectly. 
>
> Here's some photos of the rack and panniers on my bike: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/sets/72157631927569683/ 
>
> Jim Cloud 
> Tucson, AZ 
>

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