I don't think it's contentious at all. What a boring world where everybody had the same opinion about everything. Let differences flourish! (In both senses.) I am puzzled and somewhat amused by some people's thin skinned-ness.
Obviously this is a case where we each have our own preference, but there's nothing at all wrong with that. FWIW, I personally prefer saddlebags for all but quite heavy or bulky loads, simply because they don't require a rack (at least those I use on my bikes) but I prefer panniers for the shopping ease. I wheel my bikes through the stores as my shopping cart and find the grocery-specific Banjos the best I've used -- wish I could afford the upscale Ortliebs, but for the money the BBs are excellent. And of course they are so easy to put on and take off. The hook on top/bungee on the bottom is not the most secure system but for short grocery rides (I usually extend them to 11 miles rt or more) they are fine. And a plug for the Medium Saddlesack. I've carried up to 30 lb and, more to the point, it will carry as much as a single Ortlieb Packer, ie about one paper grocery sack's worth with flap closed, though I -- and I emphasize that I am speaking for myself -- find it considerably less easy to load than an open-style pannier. I am debating whether to continue the conversion of a larger-sized Timbuktu bag into a pannier by bolting on an Ortlieb mount. Right now it's got the simple dowel + toe straps system that works very well, but it takes a tedious 10 seconds to release it. OTOH, the dowel/strap system does allow me to use it also as a messenger bag while the Ortleib clamps would stick out on the back ... On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Christopher Chen <cc...@nougat.org> wrote: > Can we please drop this thread and talk about something less contentious, > like carbs or carbon forks? > > cc > > -- > "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.