On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon 
> discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they 
> want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be 
> celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences 
> (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). 

 
But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to 
others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior 
group of people? 

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