When I started following rbw discussions four years ago it seems like 
there were frequent debates about things like carbon vs steel that would go 
on for days with literally hundreds of posts.  I understand that for long 
term members those debates were just a tedious rehash of stuff that they 
had seen here before but to a new member like me they were really 
compelling and I miss them.  These days I just pop in from time to time to 
see what’s for sale but I happened to click on this and got a little 
nostalgic.     
On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's 
> strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems 
> a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon 
> discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness 
> for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. 
> Just sayin'...
>  
> Shaun
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>>>
>>>> please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- 
>>>>> carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it 
>>>>> is 
>>>>> they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should 
>>>>> be 
>>>>> celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences 
>>>>> (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote:
>>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>> But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to 
>>>> others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior 
>>>> group of people? 
>>>>
>>>
>>> While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that  I am not 
>>> smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of 
>>> people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love 
>>> for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles.  We are 
>>> bound by love and that is our sameness.
>>>
>>> okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0)
>>> -RCW
>>>
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