I just came from a shop that heads all the hill country sports events. They were assembling a new carbon bike for a guy standing there and waiting. All great folks, and my favorite shop. They were servicing the BB on the Team Fuji lugged steel frame I bought for my daughter to build on summer break - they went crazy over it. If carbon is for them, more power to them - it ain't for me.
On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:01:48 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: > > I would say keep criticisms limited to the bikes and products, not to > their riders. We all know that CF guy and he isn't a bad dude, is he? > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:00 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bert...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> I don't think it's unreasonable at all to ask members *not* to bad mouth >> CF without evidence of its defects. This is simply asking listers to be >> reasonable. Mere expression of bias against this, that, or the other >> because one doesn't happen to like it is clearly irrational and it is a >> great way to degrade the content and tone of a list! >> >> To say that today's CF bicycles are dangerous because they can fail >> suddenly with traumatic results for the rider is a reasonable thing to do, >> as long as one's data is up to date. Saying that billboard graphics are >> ugly compared to understated graphics is fine as long as one grants >> sufficient leeway to others' tastes. Saying that tight lycra looks funny on >> fat people is fine as long as one is not cruel. But simply to sneer at >> people who do things differently ... well I don't have to complete the >> sentence. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Shaun Meehan >> <meehan...@gmail.com<javascript:> >> > wrote: >> >>> Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this >>> group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; >>> it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in >>> anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with >>> a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital >>> photography. Just sayin'... >>> >>> Shaun >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc <bulld...@gmail.com <javascript:> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- >>>>>>> carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We >>>>>>> should be >>>>>>> celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences >>>>>>> (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact >>>>>> to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a >>>>>> superior >>>>>> group of people? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am >>>>> not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of >>>>> people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by >>>>> love >>>>> for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are >>>>> bound by love and that is our sameness. >>>>> >>>>> okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) >>>>> -RCW >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>>> . >>>> Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>> . >>> Visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> patric...@resumespecialties.com <javascript:> >> >> Albuquerque, NM >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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