Unfortunately the words that get co-opted (or perhaps "corrupted" would be more 
apropos) by politicians come to mean everything and nothing, depending on the 
expediency of the moment.

Riding a bike is liberal in the terms that Deacon Patrick used- it is 
liberating and indeed played a major role in expanding the rights of women in 
the late 19th and early 20th centuries.  Riding a bike is conservative compared 
to driving a motor vehicle, taking far less resources to manufacture and to 
operate.

Patrick Moore's comment of cycling's conservativeness in "rejecting unneeded 
and ultimately harmful innovation" is sadly not one I can agree with.  The 
history of the development of the bicycle is littered with such "innovations."  
Carbon fiber reinforced plastics are only the latest expression of "innovation" 
that has caused much harm from injuries when steerer tubes, fork blades and 
frames have snapped under normal and/or readily foreseeable less-than-normal 
situations.  Drillium is another harmful innovation that comes into and falls 
out of fashion periodically.  CNC milled parts such as stems and cranks which 
had an unacceptably high failure rate would be yet another; some of those are 
still with us today because the people manufacturing those products too often 
fail to understand metallurgy and metal fabrication adequately.  Rivendell and 
people like Jobst Brandt might be considered conservative by Patrick's 
description, but mainstream cycling is not- instead they chase new marketable 
pseudo-advancements in order to keep selling new bikes to a small subset of the 
population.

Locally (Twin Cities) I see a lot of people riding nice quality steel bikes 
from the 70s and 80s, dressed like unracers and looking like they are going 
to/from work and running errands.  I am cheered up by this every time.  Most of 
these are younger folks in their 20s or maybe early 30s, although I also see an 
increase in teenaged and pre-teenaged cyclers as well.  This cheers me up even 
more.  I see groups of nice young people meeting up to go out for the evening 
by bike.  I see bikes locked up all over the downtown areas and other business 
areas in town.  While us older folks are grumbling and and forming committees 
and pushing for bike lanes and trails as if this was a prerequisite for people 
to feel safe to ride, younger folks seem to be just skipping all that and 
getting on their bikes to get where they are going.  Instead of waiting for us 
to fix the world to make it cycleable, they've gotten ahead of us by just doing 
it.

Something else I have noticed… I get a lot less hassle from drivers than I got 
just five years ago.  They are used to seeing bikes on the roads, it seems.

Tim



On Jul 27, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And inherently conservative -- rejecting unneeded and ultimately harmful 
> innovation.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote:
> I'd say cycling is inherently liberal. Not the backwards modern meaning 
> politicians use today. The correct, original meaning of liberal, as in 
> liberating, seeking freedom for every person.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> 
> On Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:12:51 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
> http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/
> 
> And not only conservative, but snarling, Cobbett-like, High Church Anglican, 
> old-crusted-port, dyed-in-wool Tory (but bitterly anti-Cameron!) 
> village-sage-type conservative.
> 
> Damn'd Whigs!

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