No experience with bolt on center pulls. If you ever go custom, I highly recommend considering braze on center pulls. I've had bikes with braze on Mafac Raids and Paul Racers and currently have a bike with Paul Racer Ms. All three stopped with alacrity, had wide range modulation, and were easy to maintain.
Would not say braze on center pulls are better than dual pivot side pulls or mini-vees, both of which I've found to do an excellent job. Braze on center pulls do have a very integrated appearance and serve well. On Monday, October 14, 2013 2:18:04 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Small update. I ended up with the wrong size rear funky monkey. "Of > course it's 28.6mm, just like the front derailer clamp!" Nope. Externally > butted Seat Tube, means I needed 30.0mm. Bummer. > > Anyway I did get the front set up. I didn't ride around much with only a > front brake, but it seems pretty good. I love the clearance. I am easily > able to QR the brake to get the wheel out. Also, I now have a front rack. > All good points. > > BUT......I hate how the arms tilt inward from the pivots. The brake pads > cannot hit flush on the brake track. BOO! This means I need a wider rim. > I have 19mm wide Mavic Open Pros now, but things would be a lot more > "squared-up" with a 23 or 24mm rim. The way I prefer wide tires, this > needed to happen anyway. Time to consider the Velocity A23 in 700c or the > Pacenti SL23 in 700c. > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:55:29 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> Thanks for the replies. I think I'm with all of you: "I've used all >> kinds and they all work fine. None are dramatically better or worse". At >> least for everything but centerpulls. I've never done a nice centerpull >> setup. I understand being forced into using cheapie centerpulls for >> various reasons. What I was curiously looking for was something more >> specific. For example, I've seen many A Homer Hilsens using Silver >> Sidepulls, and I've seen many A Homer Hilsens using Paul Racer centerpulls. >> I'd love to hear somebody say "I took off the Silver Sidepulls and >> installed Paul Racers and the result was XXXX". Or, I've seen many Roadeos >> with Tektro 539s, and a few with Paul Racer M. I wanted to see if anybody >> specifically swapped from dual pivot to a quality centerpull and thought it >> changed anything. That's what I'm doing, and I'll certainly share what my >> observations are. >> >> Anyway, I did it partially out of curiosity about centerpulls. I also >> did it because I wanted a cleanly installed small front rack. I hated >> running P-clamps with a Marks rack on this bike. I also did it because I >> think it will open up the fender area. I also did it because I was/am >> inspired by Sumehra's custom mixte with braze on centerpull brakes. If I >> love centerpulls, then braze on centerpulls on a custom might make it onto >> my bucket list. >> >> 1. If braking is a wash, and I gain the use of a proper handlebar bag, >> and improve fender clearance, that's a big win >> 2. If braking performance is better, and the rack breaks under my >> handlebar bag, and fender clearance is worse, then I won't know what to do >> 3. If braking performance is worse, and the rack breaks, then I'll whine >> like a baby >> >> I'm investing a lot in making this setup really as nice as I can. Paul >> Funky Monkey hangers front and rear are rock solid. These $170 Gran Compe >> brakes are beefy CNC, not unlike Pauls. The pads come with salmon inserts >> and accept nice koolstop replacement inserts. Good cables and housing, >> nice rims. Everything should work great. >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:23:31 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:48:45 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> >>>> I've used center pulls, single pivots, and dual pivots, not to mention >>>> cantis and vs, and haven't found centerpulls any better, or much worse, >>>> than any of the others. >>>> >>> >>> I'll echo Patrick's response. I've used centerpulls for specific >>> situations (like needing cheap longer reach for a 650b conversion, or >>> needing a nutted front brake) but they aren't any better at stopping than a >>> good single or dual pivot sidepull. I've used various Weinman, Mafac, and >>> DiaCompe, and they all seem about the same for stopping power. >>> >>> jim m >>> wc ca >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
