On the point about reinventing--it's worth noting that Classical Archives succeeds by being more rigorous, more uniform, and more extensive in its use of what librarians would call uniform title data--form terms, instrumentation, etc.--than librarians are. So maybe it doesn't matter whether the user community understands "uniform titles," as long as uniform title data is presented to them in a useful way. Given that catalog records have made this harder by burying many uniform titles in 245 fields, not providing a uniform set of identifying information, and treating uniform titles generally as optional data, the struggles systems have had with providing inclusive, well ordered index displays is understandable. RDA's extensions of the MARC21 authority format could help with this, if they're uniformly applied. A big "if" ...
On the point about generating descriptions of higher-level objects from attributes common to sets of manifesation records--often the higher-level object whose attributes we'd like to capture is only partially represented and deeply enmeshed in attribute statements about the manifestation. Manifestations are far from being transparent containers of works and expressions. Deriving work and expression descriptions from them is a good idea, but it will be a lot harder than it looks. More broadly, though, letting the recognition that some sets of objects contain a common work/expression drive the choice of which work/expressions to establish makes a lot of sense. Stephen On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Mike Tribby <mike.tri...@quality-books.com > wrote: > >How would the OPAC know to display only English-language books if you > don't tell it beforehand, whether FRBR catalog or otherwise? > > If the search one initiated were on title spelled in English or on the > title (spelled in English) in a keyword search? Perhaps the title in English > as a keyword search would bring up the Danish version, too, though. > > > > > Mike Tribby > Senior Cataloger > Quality Books Inc. > The Best of America's Independent Presses > > mailto:mike.tri...@quality-books.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Mark Ehlert > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:02 AM > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Interesting conversations about RDA and FRBR ... > > J. McRee Elrod <m...@slc.bc.ca> wrote: > > Won't FRBR result in even more unwanted item records being displayed? > > Will one be able to turn of FRBR display in OPACs? I don't *need* to > > see the record for the Danish original of the murder mystery I want to > > read! > > How would the OPAC know to display only English-language books if you don't > tell it beforehand, whether FRBR catalog or otherwise? > > -- > Mark K. Ehlert Minitex > Coordinator University of Minnesota Bibliographic & > Technical 15 Andersen Library > Services (BATS) Unit 222 21st Avenue South > Phone: 612-624-0805 Minneapolis, MN 55455-0439 < > http://www.minitex.umn.edu/> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3136 - Release Date: 09/15/10 > 06:34:00 > -- Stephen Hearn, Metadata Strategist Technical Services, University Libraries University of Minnesota 160 Wilson Library 309 19th Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55455 Ph: 612-625-2328 Fx: 612-625-3428
