My understanding is that back in 2007 when the OhioLINK libraries drew up a standard for ETDs, there were many long philosophical discussions about the published vs. unpublished status. These concluded when OCLC said they consider ETDs to be published. At my library we have therefore been coding these bibs as "a" ever since.
My question was therefore not about whether ETDs are published or unpublished; it was just to confirm that the example that used a "t' was a mistake. I thought it possible there had been a change due to RDA. I have written a note to the Library of Congress Catalogers Learning Workshop, who published the examples, to see what they say. It is interesting to me that this published/unpublished understanding is not a held by all libraries. Thank you for this discussion. Joan On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Adam L. Schiff <asch...@u.washington.edu>wrote: > Even printed theses by computer have always been considered unpublished > manuscripts rather than published textual monographs, so I am not sure that > it matters if one has a printout from the computer file or a digital image > of the file contents. Theses are produced in one or a very few number of > copies, without editorial review or peer review in the same way that > published monographs are made. I just see digital theses as analogous to > their print equivalents. > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^**^^^^^^^^ > Adam L. Schiff > Principal Cataloger > University of Washington Libraries > Box 352900 > Seattle, WA 98195-2900 > (206) 543-8409 > (206) 685-8782 fax > asch...@u.washington.edu > http://faculty.washington.edu/**~aschiff<http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~**~~~~~~~~ > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Joan Wang wrote: > > Adam >> >> I remember that I asked the question before, and got an answer Yes. If we >> do not consider ETDs published, do we consider them manuscripts? The >> following is the definition of manuscript from RDA Toolkit: >> >> 1) >> In general, a text, musical score, map, etc., inscribed or written >> entirely >> by hand, or the handwritten or typescript copy of a creator’s work. >> 2) >> In the context of production method for manuscripts, any handwritten >> manuscript which is not a holograph. >> >> Based on the definition, isn't it hard to consider ETDs manuscripts? I am >> also wondering that. >> >> Thanks, >> Joan Wang >> Illinois Heartland Library System >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Adam L. Schiff <asch...@u.washington.edu >> >**wrote: >> >> I've always had a problem with considering ETDs published, although I >>> understand that for practical purposes it is easier to consider >>> everything >>> available via remote access as published. But I really don't see an >>> electronic dissertation as anything less of a manuscript than a printed >>> one. Particularly in the case of a printed thesis that has been scanned >>> and posted online as a reproduction - is this really published now? If >>> one >>> were to run a macro such as OCLC has to generate the record for the >>> digitized version off of the manuscript record, it would not have a place >>> of publication or a publisher - these would have to be added as part of >>> the >>> process, and that seems unnecessary to me and others I've spoken with. >>> We've been coding our ETDs in our digital repository as manuscript >>> material. >>> >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^****^^^^^^^^ >>> >>> Adam L. Schiff >>> Principal Cataloger >>> University of Washington Libraries >>> Box 352900 >>> Seattle, WA 98195-2900 >>> (206) 543-8409 >>> (206) 685-8782 fax >>> asch...@u.washington.edu >>> http://faculty.washington.edu/****~aschiff<http://faculty.washington.edu/**~aschiff> >>> <http://faculty.**washington.edu/~aschiff<http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff> >>> > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~****~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Myers, John F. wrote: >>> >>> Which perhaps begs the question of why have two different Type codes for >>> >>>> the same kind of content? (Which I acknowledge is an encoding and >>>> communication format question rather than an RDA question.) >>>> >>>> John F. Myers, Catalog Librarian >>>> Schaffer Library, Union College >>>> Schenectady NY 12308 >>>> >>>> mye...@union.edu >>>> 518-388-6623 >>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**--- >>>> >>>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, Joan Milligan wrote: >>>> >>>> I believe the "Type" should be "a" not "t," because a dissertation is >>>> >>>>> considered published when it appears online. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. >> Cataloger -- CMC >> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) >> 6725 Goshen Road >> Edwardsville, IL 62025 >> 618.656.3216x409 >> 618.656.9401Fax >> > -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu
