Joel,
 
Our company cannot survive without selling an entire system.  When we help the 
unqualified and untrained we legitimize unsubstantiated pv businesses.  We get  
a dozen phone calls a month from folks wanting us to install their systems.  It 
is a rat hole and we have learned that not only are such ventures unprofitable, 
they are fraught with poor designs and a plethora of other hassles.  This whole 
thing reminds me of the Carter solar Gold Rush where, sure, a bunch of systems 
were installed, but look at the damage it did to the industry.
 
Respectfully, 



Andrew Koyaanisqatsi
President
Solar Energy Solutions, Inc.
Since 1987,
Moving Portland and Beyond 
to an Environmentally Sustainable Future.

503-238-4502
www.solarenergyoregon.com 
 
"Better one's House too little one day
than too big all the Year after."

--- On Fri, 1/28/11, Joel Davidson <joel.david...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: Joel Davidson <joel.david...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new 
installation methods
To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 7:06 AM



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Guys,
You're missing a business opportunity. Instead of complaining about roofers' 
bad work and competition, show the company owners photos of their screw-ups and 
your quality work. Tell him that he is a risk. Then offer to do their design 
and electrical installation (let them do the sales, roofing, and grunt work).
Joel Davidson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Warren Lauzon 
To: RE-wrenches 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative,new installation 
methods




We have seen a lot of the roofing companies nibbling around the edges of solar 
installs lately. I have only seen a couple of installs personally, and they 
were far from what I would call professional or reliable. Not quite as bad as 
your example, but in one case they had used Romex to run the wiring down to the 
inverter, and not in conduit.
 


 

From: Nick Soleil 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative,new installation 
methods
 

Hi wrenches:
   Have you noticed that roofing companies have recently been trying to sell 
solar?  One company thought of something that I had never considered.  Listen 
to this neat story.
   I was servicing a job today, where a roofing company recently removed and 
re-installed a PV array on a 12 degree sloped roof.  The funny thing is that 
the roofer didn't want to penetrate his new roof, so he and the customer 
decided to leave the panels sitting on the composition roof without any 
attachments to the structure.  They didn't think it was necessary!  
    Shortly afterward, the array slid down the roof, and a MultiContact 
connector came unplugged.  The customer noticed that his system was not 
operating, and called us to the site.  

 Nick Soleil
Project Manager
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
PO Box 657
Petaluma, CA 94953
Cell: 707-321-2937
Office: 707-789-9537
Fax: 707-769-9037 
 



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