I installed a system provides by another, it failed, because of defective equipment, I am being sued to replace the defective equipment DT
________________________________ From: boB Gudgel <b...@midnitesolar.com> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 11:25:34 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new installation methods On 1/28/2011 8:41 AM, Solar Energy Solutions wrote: Joel, > >Our company cannot survive without selling an entire system. >When we help the unqualified and untrained we legitimize >unsubstantiated pv businesses. We get a dozen phone calls a >month from folks wanting us to install their systems. It is a >rat hole and we have learned that not only are such ventures >unprofitable, they are fraught with poor designs and a >plethora >of other hassles. This whole thing reminds me of the > >Carter solar Gold Rush where, sure, a bunch of systems were >installed, but look at the damage it did to the industry. > >Respectfully, > > I just hope that the solar installers' industry doesn't have to start installing roofs, too !! boB > >Andrew Koyaanisqatsi >President >Solar Energy Solutions, Inc. >Since 1987, >Moving Portland and Beyond >to an Environmentally Sustainable Future. >503-238-4502 >www.solarenergyoregon.com > >"Better one's House too little one day >than too big all the Year after." > >--- On Fri, 1/28/11, Joel Davidson <joel.david...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >>From: Joel Davidson <joel.david...@sbcglobal.net> >>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = >>creative, >>new installation methods >>To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> >>Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 7:06 AM >> >> >> >>Guys, >>You're missing a business opportunity. Instead of >>complaining about roofers' bad work and competition, >>show >>the company owners photos of their screw-ups and your >> >>quality work. Tell him that he is a risk. Then offer to >>do >>their design and electrical installation (let them do >>the >>sales, roofing, and grunt work). >>Joel Davidson >>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Warren Lauzon >>>To: RE-wrenches >>>Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:35 AM >>>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = >>> >>>creative,new installation methods >>> >>> >>>We have seen a lot of the roofing companies >>>nibbling >>>around the edges of solar installs lately. I have >>>only >>>seen a couple of installs personally, and they >>>were >>>far from what I would call professional or >>>reliable. >>>Not quite as bad as your example, but in one case >>>they >>>had used Romex to run the wiring down to the >>>inverter, >>>and not in conduit. >>> >>>From: Nick Soleil >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 PM >>>To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing >>>solar >>>= creative,new installation methods >>> Hi wrenches: >>> Have you noticed that roofing companies have >>>recently been trying to sell solar? One company >>>thought of something that I had never >>>considered. >>>Listen to this neat story. >>> I was servicing a job today, where a roofing >>>company recently removed and re-installed a PV >>>array >>>on a 12 degree sloped roof. The funny thing is >>>that >>>the roofer didn't want to penetrate his new >>> >>>roof, so he and the customer decided to leave >>>the >>>panels sitting on the composition roof without >>>any >>>attachments to the structure. They didn't think >>>it >>>was necessary! >>> >>> Shortly afterward, the array slid down the >>> roof, >>>and a MultiContact connector came unplugged. >>>The >>>customer noticed that his system was not >>>operating, >>>and called us to the site. >>> >>> >>> Nick Soleil >>>Project Manager >>>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC >>>PO Box 657 >>>Petaluma, CA 94953 >>>Cell: 707-321-2937 >>>Office: 707-789-9537 >>>Fax: 707-769-9037 >>> >>>
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