On 1/28/2011 8:41 AM, Solar Energy Solutions wrote:
Joel,
Our company cannot survive without selling an entire system. When we
help the unqualified and untrained we legitimize unsubstantiated pv
businesses. We get a dozen phone calls a month from folks wanting us
to install their systems. It is a rat hole and we have learned that
not only are such ventures unprofitable, they are fraught with poor
designs and a plethora of other hassles. This whole thing reminds me
of the Carter solar Gold Rush where, sure, a bunch of systems were
installed, but look at the damage it did to the industry.
Respectfully,
I just hope that the solar installers' industry doesn't have to start
installing roofs, too !!
boB
*Andrew Koyaanisqatsi*
President
*Solar Energy Solutions, Inc.*
Since 1987,
Moving Portland and Beyond
to an Environmentally Sustainable Future.
*503-238-4502*
*www.solarenergyoregon.com <http://www.solarenergyoregon.com/> *
**
*"Better one's House too little one day*
*than too big all the Year after."*
--- On *Fri, 1/28/11, Joel Davidson /<joel.david...@sbcglobal.net>/*
wrote:
From: Joel Davidson <joel.david...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative,
new installation methods
To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 7:06 AM
Guys,
You're missing a business opportunity. Instead of complaining
about roofers' bad work and competition, show the company owners
photos of their screw-ups and your quality work. Tell him that he
is a risk. Then offer to do their design and electrical
installation (let them do the sales, roofing, and grunt work).
Joel Davidson
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Warren Lauzon
<http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=war...@wind-sun.com>
*To:* RE-wrenches
<http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
*Sent:* Friday, January 28, 2011 3:35 AM
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =
creative,new installation methods
We have seen a lot of the roofing companies nibbling around
the edges of solar installs lately. I have only seen a couple
of installs personally, and they were far from what I would
call professional or reliable. Not quite as bad as your
example, but in one case they had used Romex to run the wiring
down to the inverter, and not in conduit.
*From:* Nick Soleil
<http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nicksoleilso...@yahoo.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 PM
*To:* re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
<http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =
creative,new installation methods
Hi wrenches:
Have you noticed that roofing companies have recently been
trying to sell solar? One company thought of something that I
had never considered. Listen to this neat story.
I was servicing a job today, where a roofing company
recently removed and re-installed a PV array on a 12 degree
sloped roof. The funny thing is that the roofer didn't want
to penetrate his new roof, so he and the customer decided to
leave the panels sitting on the composition roof without any
attachments to the structure. They didn't think it was
necessary!
Shortly afterward, the array slid down the roof, and a
MultiContact connector came unplugged. The customer noticed
that his system was not operating, and called us to the site.
Nick Soleil
Project Manager
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
PO Box 657
Petaluma, CA 94953
Cell: 707-321-2937
Office: 707-789-9537
Fax: 707-769-9037
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