On 2007-05-15, at 01:38, Brendan Murphy wrote:

> Sven E Olsson wrote:
>> It always costs to be on the "top".. .. But the Q is when we talk
>> about REALbasic things in general, Am I on the "top" if I buy "FTC",
>> or is the complete solution still buggy and give me problems?
>>
>> This is my experience about this:
>> I have the Visa in my hand.
>> Testing FTC (demo app).. And I tested, tested, tested, and then I
>> found the RAM usage to 400MB!
>> Trying to find out what I doing when this issue was generated, but no
>> success.
>>
>> Thinking:::  "The whole concept" is to unstable and have to many
>> issues, I put the Visa on an safer place.
>>
>> And in this case, it do not matter if I should pay 10 USD.. I just
>> don't buy it (this time)....
>
> When you talk about 400 mb RAM usage, we are talking about 1000
> page document with two pictures a page and that's pretty heavy
> usage. There is no known memory leak I know of so far. You could
> of sent me an email asking about the issue instead of sitting
> there and wondering and I would of gladly looked into it.


As I could se there is no such example, 1000 pages with 2 pictures on.
Yes, if I could reproduce it, then I should doing that. Instead I say  
to my self, NO more (bigger) projects using REALbasic.


>
> I have been putting out pre-release demos that people could buy a
> license so that they can get an early jump on integrating it into
> their applications with the caveat that this is beta software. In
> exchange, they also get get an attentive ear for the features they
> want integrated and I have actually added a few things at my
> customers' request. With each beta I have put out I have
> concentrated on adding new features. With the upcoming beta 13 all
> features will be implemented (except for the undo capability) and
> all known problems will be fixed and my customers who have been
> seeing my preview releases of beta 13 can testify that significant
> progress has been made towards this goal. So saying,
> "Thinking::: 'The whole concept' is to unstable and have to many
> issues," is really an unfair judgement to make at this point. You
> should be examining the potential of what it can do for you and
> when its done then judge if it is stable enough.
>
> When you jump on board and buy a license for the FTC is up to you,
> but you are right to wait for the finished product if that is your
> desire. My goal is to have as defect free product as possible
> since the reason I built the FTC is to use it in my own
> applications!

I think the mostly developers of something wanted that, but as I  
said, it is not only your tools that is depending on an good result,  
it is the whole concept including REALbasic.


> You won't have to wait to long now for the finished
> product and then you can judge. Currently I am working on
> implementing tabbing which people were asking for.
>
> So to your general point, if the quality isn't there, then it
> doesn't matter what price you pay and I agree with you on that.
> Specifically for the FTC, I intend it to be a top notch control
> that is worth every penny you spend on it.

It is not worth a penny, if I not have a solid compiler tool to  
compile your code with.

So perhaps the 3rd parity plugins/classes discussion should start  
with the "ground" REALbasic ... Then we could discuss if a plugin is  
worth 10 or 1000 dollar..
And just about this, today I found an "advertisement" for the  
REALWorld 2007 on RB Garage, using a reference that CLOSED the door,  
sad and ironic in the same time. And they have to close the door  
because?


Sven E
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