On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 15:53 +0100, Peter Steinlechner wrote: > You have to look under tools and scenes to upload meshes with naali
Yep, the old way (both in the old rexviewer and in Naali) of adding single meshes is embarrasingly complex: upload mesh to inventory (in Naali right-click in inventory window and select upload, or drag&drop from disk to inventory iirc), create a prim, attach the mesh to the prim. What I think Peter is referring to is the dotscene upload, and that is indeed the recommended way: export from your modelling app not only a single object, but also a scene description (which basically tells where your object, or all objects in the scene, are). Then you can use the scene tool in that menu to load your object/scene and it all goes automatically, uploads and assigns the materials and textures too etc. That is the best way even for a single object. For just adding a simple mesh, in the old releases (0.3 and 0.4) you can also drag&drop it from the web. This video shows how: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4M__dCSnk . I.e.: press 'build' and find library, then drag&drop meshes from the list .. which is actually this web page: http://www.realxtend.org/rexlib/ In current Naali, the Tundra 1.0.* releases, you can just drag&drop .mesh .scene etc. files also from local disk. And if you are connected to a server that uses a webserver to share them with others, it uploads them automatically then. Finally it's good and easy! So that brings the question I wanted to ask from Macho Che (again :) -- when you say "My server is based on OpenSim 0.7.0.2," but OTOH "Any viewer is OK!" -- how is your server based on opensim? Have you written some LSL scripts or Opensim region modules so that you have own functionality? Or have you just installed Opensim and are using it out of the box? In which case could also just replace it with another app if it served you better? Please, don't anyone interpret this so that I or reX in general would have anything against Opensim and a huge campaign to try to convert every user :) For me it is really important to know and understand what people use and how, what they need exactly etc., to know how to prioritize Naali dev efforts etc. If there is a lot of use cases where Opensim is really needed, it makes sense for us to invest in making the new Naali/Tundra stuff work against Opensim too. Not so if Naali users typically don't actually need Opensim, but would be better of with Tundra where Naali already works better (e.g. adding a mesh to scene is easy) and everything is simpler overall. I know many ways how Opensim is useful when using SL viewer and derivatives like Imprudence, but that's actually a different question than for Naali usage currently ('cause Naali doesn't support on the client side the things that make SL shine, namely fast rendering of large amounts of prims and showing multiple regions simultaneously). So please tell if you can! ~Toni > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Macho Che <chewei...@gmail.com> > wrote: > thanks for your kind suggestion. I've tried to use Naali for > several times, also read the help files, but I even cann't > find the upload button in Naali, very different with the old > realxtend viewer, right? and I also cannot find some functions > which are displayed in the help file. Maybe the different > versions of Naali all have some big changes? > > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Toni Alatalo > <t...@playsign.net> wrote: > On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Macho Che wrote: > > My server is based on OpenSim 0.7.0.2, so I'd like > > to add some modules such as ModreX to import 3D mesh > > to my server. Any viewer is OK! There are many > > detailed 3D model (we can convert them to *.mesh > > type) but we cann't upload them to our sever. So > > what we need is 3D mesh supporting in our existing > > OpenSim server. It doesn't matter which viewer we > > use. > > > Ok. You could give Naali a shot then. > > > Are you also using prims to build, or only meshes? > Naali has basic prim rendering support, but there > seems to be some bug that some are sometimes sideways. > And it's not optimized for rendering a large amount of > prims. > > > Do you need to have the meshes in the opensim asset > server, or could you use any web server? We've found > that e.g. dropbox is handy when authoring - can just > copy .mesh files etc to a local folder, and use the > public http ref to that in-world -- easier than doing > the inventory upload biz. > > > BTW: if you need full and complex prim support and > other SL features, with just some meshes added, the > new slviewer mesh beta + current opensim dev version > which has support for storing Linden meshes may be a > good option too. Naali is better if you need other reX > features too, like customizable UI and control logic > scripting etc. > > > ~Toni > > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Toni Alatalo > > <t...@playsign.net> wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Macho Che > > wrote: > > > Compiled the ModreX module in OpenSim > > > successfully, but the mesh cannot be > > > displayed, others are all OK. > > > > > > Ok, I don't know the status of modrex on > > 0.7, i.e. whether inventory works fully etc. > > With the Naali viewer we are typically not > > using the whole inventory system anymore, as > > it can load data (meshes, textures etc) from > > the web. I saw Mikko Pallari demoing one reX > > scene on 0.7, but don't know if he tested > > inventory (certainly he didn't need it). He > > most probably also tested with Naali. For > > basics the protocol is still the same so the > > old rexviewer prototype should work, though. > > > > > > Do you need to use the old rexviewer (the > > one based on slviewer), or could you use > > Naali instead? The old one hasn't been > > developed for >2 years anymore, and not used > > by any of the developers for about a year I > > think. I know it still has some features > > that Naali doesn't have, for Opensimulator / > > SL based usage (simultaneous multiregion, > > scultps, prim modelling UI, ..). > > > > > > But Naali especially with the Tundra server > > is much simpler if you just need to make a > > world with 3d models and don't necessarily > > need all of SL features. > > > > > > ~Toni > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Toni > > > Alatalo <t...@playsign.net> wrote: > > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Macho > > > Che wrote: > > > > when I use my OpenSim server, I > > > ignored the money part, and the 3D > > > model I uploaded can be seen in my > > > inventory, but I can't use it > > > because there's no mesh to select > > > (see the picture below), So you > > > mean I should run the modrex > > > module in my own OpenSim Server? > > > > > > > > > yes. > > > > > > ~Toni > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > > > http://www.realxtend.org > > > > > > -- > > > CHE Weitao > > > Institute of Space and Earth > > > Information Science (ISEIS) > > > Fok Ying Tung Remote Sensing > > > Science Building > > > The Chinese University of Hong > > > Kong > > > Shatin, N.T., Hong Kong > > > Tel: +852-2696 1457 > > > Mobile: +852-90645196 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > > > http://www.realxtend.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > > http://www.realxtend.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > > http://www.realxtend.org > > > > -- > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > http://www.realxtend.org > > > -- > > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > http://www.realxtend.org > > > > -- > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > http://www.realxtend.org -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
