(I originally posted this message early today - but SmartList
succeeded in unsubsribing me and refused to let me post - ho hum!).
On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Dave Wreski wrote:
> Seriously, the people at my level, and one or two levels up wouldn't
> mind so much, but if the COO, for example, found out we were using
> an 'unsupported' product for _anything_ the shit would hit the fan.
> Its a large company, so there is a good deal of bureacracy, but we
> even had a hard time purcasing the $500 caldera package to do simple
> Internet security exploit testing...
Unsupported???? We have full commercial support available for Red Hat
Linux... what do they actually want that we are not providing with our
commercial support program - this sort of response from management is
one we wish to stop! I am also interested that they were happy
purchasing Caldera for exploit testing - I resume that this was
because Red Hat is somewhat faster at providing security updates than
Caldera?
> There is another group that does hardware/software support, and
> trying to cross group boundaries for a product that there is no
> available training, support (known support, from a company that
> everyone has heard of), stablity, reliability and finally
> responsibility would be pretty much impossible.
Ummm - has no-one in your company REALLY heard of Pencom/Collective
Technologies - they are our largest support partner...
> And who wants to configure a corporate web server by using vi, when
> Netscape provides a graphical interface? And what about using
> ipfwadm to set up a firewall?
Your point about the web server is well taken - but have you tried the
apachecfg package?
As to using ipfwadm to set up a firewall, I have done that alot. The
point with firewalls is that there is a very great deal of knowledge
required to set up a firewall - and the interface to a firewall
package makes not the slightest difference to this.
When I installed firewalls as a consultant I needed to *know exactly*
what was going on (and control it). I developed a fairly complex
'draft' script that was used as the basis for my firewall
installs...no gui needed.
> I realize there are commercial versions available for most of these
> (except for anything other than the most basic Netscape web server)
> but the "Powers that Be" don't have any idea where to purchase such
> stuff, and many times it run by another very small company. What
> would it take to get the TIS people to port Raptor to port their
> firewall? Has RH approached them!?
Goodness only knows - we are only 40 people and have our hands full
with a heap of jobs - wich includes trying to keep track of all the
packages that are becoming available on Linux!!!
If people want Raptor on Red Hat Linux (or any other product) the best
way to get it is to ring the maker of the software and try to order a
Red Hat Linux version - if they get enough inquiries they will port
(and we are always happy to talk to organiations about porting).
Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Red Hat Software Inc. Phone: +1-919-547-0012 Fax: +1-919-547-0024
4201 Research Commons Suite 100, 79 TW Alexander Dr., Research Triangle Park,
NC 27709, USA
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