You're kind of missing the point. It seems like most Linux boosters do and I
believe on purpose so as not to "undermine" Linux.  No X no KDE, no Gnome.

If someone wants a full function/look GUI like Win or MAC then telling them
to use Blackbox instead or (your lightweight gui of choice here) is not a
helpful response to people who complain what a pig Linux running KDE or
Gnome is.  Compared to Windows it SIMPLY IS!

I wish people would tell them the simple truth that on the same hardware as
they used to run Windows whatever, Linux running whatever full blown gui of
your choice will NEVER run as fast as Windows. No amount of tweaking,
praying or good luck is going to change that.

So I'll rephrase my complaint. X plus (the full blown wm of your choice
here) sucks, is slow as hell on moderate hardware, and that and the fact
that the current Linux GUI desktop looks like shit (fonts, ui, etc.) to most
non Political Linux and regular 'ol windows/mac users is the reason why
desktop linux is not overtaking (or even competing with) any other desktop
OS soon or in the forseeable future.

In short, X and KDE, Gnome, etc. sucks and for Linux to be a great desktop
OS the entire video/gui layer of Linux will have to be redone from scratch.

Because, as the foundation for a desktop GUI on an individual machine, X
sucks 8^)

Regards,
Mike Wafkowski

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Subject: Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?


> On 20-Jun-2003/03:51 -0400, MWafkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The Reason - X, X and X again.
> >
> >I hate X.
>
> I doubt that X is the problem. It is more likely that it is the window
> manager and/or desktop environment that is slowing things down. You can
> demonstrate this to yourself by using lightweight window manager like
> Blackbox. The difference is dramatic.
>
> GNOME and KDE have nice features, but they slow things down significantly.
>
> Tony
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