> On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 09:49, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > > <SNIP> > > > Dropping your first punch card deck on the floor and having > > to manually > > resort the entire deck of 500 cards because you did not > <snip> > ROTFLMAOPMP, Kenneth, I give up, you win! you win! > Sheesh. > I remember Hollerith cards but fortunately never had to deal > with them > except to learn about them just in case. Glad I missed that, though I > still had to wait for the operator to release my compile > jobs on an HP. > I remember the most infuriating thing back in the old days of > programming, when it took half a day to compile, was missing > that f---- > '.' in COBOL. > I always wondered what happened to you old geezers. I > remember the whine > of an RA60 pack winding up. Loading files from mag tape. > Hell, the first > program I wrote was on a VIC 20. Imagine how concise you had > to program > back then. Today they are very sloppy. They just tell you > that you need > a bigger machine.
It just goes to show you how REALLY far we have come in such a short time. Old geezer, Hell NO Ed, I am only 47 and barely into my prime. I just started real early at age 8, barely out of diapers. Dad was a big wheel at the bank, took his brightest boy into the shop one day for a visit (banks - how boring...), got that mandatory gee whiz tour of the data center, caught one look at those big machines with the flashing lights and spinning reels of tape and feel in love.....(sort of).... Read everything available on those computer gizmos from that point on ..... flash forward to A progressive high school district with a PDP 8e and a IBM 1130. The PDP8e was paper tape loaded for even the OS NO Disk, very little ram and 8 Teletype TTY terminals. The 1130 - punch cards and hard disk cartridge and god yes - a Drum based Line printer (they used it for the school district records processing as well) As a freshman, I had to get up at 5AM, get to my high school by 6AM, waddle down pitch dark hallways, open my locker in the dark, grab the compsci stuff and catch a bus to the other high school for a 7-8am class. I whipped through the course work for the class in two weeks and then I wrote computer games the rest of the time in Basic for this PDP. They were kinda of lame by todays standards and based on the TV shows of the Day that I had to reload into the PDP via Paper Tape before I could run them. But I would have gone through hell and back to get my hands on a computer to play with. Flash forward a few more years and I am at a high tech college working on a Xerox Sigma 9 Main Frame, Perkin Elmer Interdata 8-32. Learning all the standard comp sci stuff. Meet my first "Production PC", the Altair, at a ACM computer club meeting at the college. One day a buddy of mine drags me over to the "Computer Graphics Laboratory" where he works as an operator. They hire me part time as a op/prog and I spend the next 3 years working (fulltime) with and in awe of such Geniuses (when they were just out of college to boot) as Dr. Edwin Catmull, Dr. Alvy Ray Smith (both now of PIXAR systems and formerly with Lucasfilm - Toy Story) Dr. James Clark for a summer, Tom Duff, now of Bell Labs, (Google on "Duff's Device") and a cast of others of their caliber in a Lab specializing in bleedy edge computer graphics animation. It's were I found out that there were real programmer friendly systems like UNIX, worked on the first production VAX 11-780, and watched a computer controlled 4 inch reel to reel video tape recorder (the IVC 9000) do single frame recording on magnetic tape. You write time-code on the tape end to end, your PDP11-70 goes into dedicated real-time mode for controlling the IVR,l you rewind the tape back a bit to get a running start, You start playback mode, you hit the right time-code value and then pop the record button on for a second and it recorded (hopefully) what was in the attached frame buffer. Video disk recorders were just coming out then and were a good 6 figures at that time. DAMN I miss those days!!! Wasn't LIFE just grand and exciting back then ED? When only a few of us had PC's and the DARPA-NET wasnt loaded down with SPAM. Writing tight little code was a real art done by really talented people working in darken halls of magic and awe. We were worshipped and feared as Gods Unto Our Own Right. :=} :=} :=} :=} ALL break into a chorus of "Those Were The Days, My Friend, We Thought They'd Never End" I would like to see those code jockeys at Microsoft rewrite Office 2000 to run in a 64 KB split I and D space system like my old PDP 11-70 64K BYTES for instructions, 64K for data and maybe if you got the UNIX V6 kernel code to behave you could enable and get I-Code leap frog to work right and increase your I-code space infinitely. I played with it because UNIX was a source license at that time. imagine - a version of bank select memory that predated the PC world's notion.) Cheap RAM, Cheap and Fast CPU's are making us all soft in the belly............ Have a Nice weekend all................ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list