Right, and three or four years ago they ran the saintly Joe Torre out of town.
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > I see this as pointless. There is a conceit among fans that what they > think of players makes a difference. It doesn't. Everybody loved these > same useless, fat, beer-swilling, chemistry-free, chicken-plucking, > video-gamers, when they were on pace for 100 wins. > > The Sox take Papi's willingness to play anywhere that will pay him more > money as a given. There's no point in advising him to talk about New York. > > I just think that this was a miserable year for all concerned and Papi is > as sick of it as the rest of us, meanwhile you have New York which managed > to win the division handily and then get bumped from the playoffs > immediately without having the organization turn into a circular firing > squad. > > The Yankees are looking pretty good to everyone right about now. > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sure, he considered Papi would go elsewhere, but I think Papi going on >> ESPN and making statements that he is disenchanted with Boston bolsters his >> position. If he wasn’t in a contract year he would not be doing it. He is >> negotiating.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Everybody will forget about the fact that Papi said something nice about >> the Yankees organization as soon as he signs again with the Red Sox and >> proclaims his love for the fans as his reason for coming back.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> See ya Lackey.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2011 6:09 PM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: oh eff you papi**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Steve,I get the basic concept of negotiations. But if you think Lucchino >> hadn't already considered the possibility of Papi going elsewhere,including >> NY, then I think you're selling him short.This is amateur hour stuff.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> As for the comments, they come with a cost of good will, too high a cost >> in my opinion. Papi already has helped mute any outrage over his departure. >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> See ya Papi.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote:** >> ** >> >> It’s not about “effecting” Larry Lucchino. It’s about staking out a >> favorable position in the negotiation.**** >> >> **** >> >> Papi wants Larry to think that him going to NY is a real option. If Larry >> believes that Papi would consider this, it helps Papi’s position in the >> negotiation.**** >> >> **** >> >> Whether or not Larry buys it is another thing altogether.**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:49 PM**** >> >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: oh eff you papi**** >> >> **** >> >> What? You think Larry Lucchino is affected by this one iota? I don't.**** >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote:** >> ** >> >> The public? They don't matter in contract negotiations. He's trying to >> make Sox management and the management of potential suitors think he is >> willing to leave. That puts him in a better bargaining position.**** >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Salemi >> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: oh eff you papi >> >> Yanks have jeter and arod to fill half the DH slots. If they sign >> papi it's at a discount. >> >> Did his agent really think this would get the public behind him? Great >> suggestion. >> >> Here is another. Get a new agent. >> >> On 10/13/11, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I'm not giving up on Papi yet. I think he is negotiating. It would be >> > stupid for him to publicly say, "no way I'd ever go to NY" with his >> contract >> > up. I think his agent told him to go on national TV and say that he is >> > disenchanted with Boston and he would consider leaving. He's trying to >> > start a bidding war. >> > >> > I'm disgusted with this whole situation, but I think it would be a >> tragedy >> > if he ended up in pinstripes. >> > >> > Steve >> > >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi >> > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:13 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: oh eff you papi >> > >> > This is what we get for letting him hug New Yorkers. >> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Tom Salemi >> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > Good luck with that. >> > >> > >> http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/ortiz_threateni.html?p1=News_links >> > >> > >> > David Ortiz is threatening to go play for the Yankees. >> > >> > "That's something I gotta think about. I've been here on the Red Sox a >> long >> > time, and I've seen how everything goes down between these two >> ballclubs," >> > he said in an interview with ESPN's Colleen Dominguez. 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