Ideally, I think the idea is that you want to hire someone who realizes that "this guy hits well against that guy" is valuable information.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > That would not be in line at all. Your exaggerated statement defeats your > point. I'm not talking about the owner flashing the take sign from his box. > I'm saying a GM - armed with data - saying this guy hits well against that > guy so we should consider allowing this guy to hit against that guy. > > Didn't realize you were such a goodbaseballman. I like your fedora, here's a > cigar to chomp on. > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm sorry Mr. Owner, but lineups are below your pay grade. >> >> That would be line Kraft being consulted on 4th and inches. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm on the owner or the GM I better damn well have some input on what goes >> on. I don't even have a problem with them consulting or even suggesting line >> ups and who plays or sits versus certain appointments. The manager still has >> plenty to do managing the clubhouse and the actual game. >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Yes. That's the Grady Little rule. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Just that one of their requirements was that they have 'input' on the 'on >>> the field' activities. They wanted a manager that would be open >>> to 'suggestions' from the front office. >>> >>> Dan D >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: How Bobby V Got the Job >>> >>> I don't see how these are the least bit incompatible. >>> >>> A big personality who loses is worthless. >>> Anyone who wins will deliver more cash than a loser. >>> >>> So it seems they are the same. >>> >>> I'm not sure what you mean by baseball operations wanting to "have a say >>> on how the team performs on a daily basis." I literally don't understand >>> the sentence. >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> >>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Different goals? Ownership is primarily concerned with filling seats and >>> revenue - by-products of winning but also generated by >>> big personalities. Baseball Ops is concerned with winning now AND in the >>> future and with having a say in how the team performs >>> on a daily basis. >>> >>> Dan D >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: How Bobby V Got the Job >>> >>> This was an excellent article. So much of the analysis and writing about >>> the managerial process started and ended with "Luchino is the Dick Cheney" >>> of the Red Sox. This was a thoughtful discussion of how the team made an >>> important business decision. >>> >>> It did strike me that "baseball operations" and "ownership" were broken >>> into camps who required dialog and compromise to come to a decision. I >>> wonder what makes that happen? >>> >>> >>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Interesting take on the manager's search. I'm sure Dan Shaughnessy won't >>> buy it. >>> >>> >>> http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/alex-speier/2011/12/01/v-victory-now-how-bobby-valentine-became-red-s >>> >>> Dan D >>> Central NJ USA >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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