I cannot imagine that it would violate the Constitution if a philosophy department 
presented "ethics from a Christian (or Islamic or Jewish) point of view" any more than 
it violates the Constitution to present a course in a department of religion on "the 
belief structure of Islam."  I assume the problem (if there is one) arises when the 
instructor switches from third-person speech ("this is what Christians (Jews, Muslims, 
etc.) believe about the creation of the world" to first-person ("and I believe this is 
a true understanding of creation").  If we allow a secularist use the first-person, 
then I don't understand why a sectarian could be denied the same freedom.  This is a 
wholly different question, incidentally, from whether a department is obligated to 
present views that they believe are nonsense.  Thus, I believe that a biology 
department commits no wrong by failing to teach "creation science" (or whatever it's 
called these days), just as a university is under no obligation to teach astrology.

sandy

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:29:51 +0000
Subject: Re: Do philosophy departments violate the Constitution?

In Mark's hypo the philosophy departments, and the teachers who speak within it, are 
state actors.  The question, then, is not whether exclusion of a certain viewpoint 
from "faculty speech" would violate the free speech clause (the clause that UVa was 
held to have violated in Rosenberger); presumably it wouldn't, because the free speech 
clause does not restrict the state itself from expressing any views it wishes.  The 
question, then, is whether the university would violate the *Establishment* Clause by 
*permitting* a faculty member to teach "Ethics from a Christian/Roman Catholic Point 
of View" -- and, for that matter, for permitting teachers more broadly to "present 
their own views about what general approach to ethics," including "ultimate issues of 
life," are "correct/most defensible."
> I'd like to suggest a slight variant on the issues opened up by the 
> discussion of invited speakers.  Consider the philosophy department in a 
> public university.  It offers a number of courses in ethics, in which 
> teachers survey the field and -- importantly for the problem -- present 
> their own views about what general approach to ethics (utilitarianism, 
> Kantianism, and the like) is correct/most defensible.  Many of these 
> courses spend a substantial amount of time on "ultimate issues" of life 
> (of a sort that addressed -- in a different way -- in theology 
> departments in religiously affiliated universities).  [I invite people 
> to tinker with the set-up in ways that make the following question more 
> pointed.]  Under Rosenberger, is the department violating the 
> Constitution if it rejects a course proposal by a fully qualified 
> instructor (Ph. D. in philosophy, with a specialization in ethics, and 
> an advanced theological degree relevant to the course proposal) to offer

> a course (on the same terms as the other ethics courses are offered --
> as an elective if they are, as a course that fulfills a departmental
> requirement if they do) in (not "on") Christian ethics, or Roman
> Catholic ethics, or "Ethics from a Christian/Roman Catholic Point of
> View," or ... -- when the rejection is on the ground that the
> perspective proposed is not within the department's definition of
> "philosophy"?
>
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