That is, in my view, a misstatement of the facts. The person carrying the alcohol holds a religious worldview that permits them to drink, carry, and transport alcohol. The cabdriver refusing to transport them is making a religious judgment about the passenger. The only passengers you can be certain this cabdriver will always transport are those with the same religious worldview. Discounting the religious world view of the passenger leads to a one-sided analysis.
Again, just as in the contraception context, the contemporary discourse generally has discounted the religious beliefs of the person who is affected by the accommodation. You aren't going to find many pairings of people in the US where both don't have some religious beliefs/world view. Religious claimants who want accommodation freight their arguments with claims of the "religious" vs. the "secular", but that is a rhetorical ruse. In fact, a religious individual demanding an accommodation more often than not burdens someone who does not share their religious world view but who has a competing world view. Marci Marci A. Hamilton Paul R. Verkuil Chair in Public Law Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law Yeshiva University 55 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10003 They aren’t discriminating against anyone on the basis of that person’s religion. The cabbies’ own religious beliefs are leading them to discriminate against people who are openly carrying alcoholic beverages. I’m not sure I know of any religion that calls on its adherents to carry alcoholic beverages openly. Mark S. Scarberry Pepperdine Univ. School of Law Malibu, CA 90263 (310)506-4667 Marci A. Hamilton Paul R. Verkuil Chair in Public Law Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law Yeshiva University 55 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10003 (212) 790-0215 hamilto...@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Scarberry, Mark <mark.scarbe...@pepperdine.edu> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Tue, Mar 6, 2012 8:40 pm Subject: RE: Cabbies vs. lawyers They aren’t discriminating against anyone on the basis of that person’s religion. The cabbies’ own religious beliefs are leading them to discriminate against people who are openly carrying alcoholic beverages. I’m not sure I know of any religion that calls on its adherents to carry alcoholic beverages openly. Mark S. Scarberry Pepperdine Univ. School of Law Malibu, CA 90263 (310)506-4667 From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Jamar Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 5:18 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Cabbies vs. lawyers Are not the cabbies discriminating against customers on the basis of religion? Or is the alcohol proxy enough to remove that taint? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:38 PM, "Volokh, Eugene" <vol...@law.ucla.edu> wrote: In a sense this may be obvious, but it might be worth restating: One thing that is facing the cabbies is that for complex reasons cabbies are stripped of liberties that the rest of us take for granted. If we disapprove of alcohol – whether because we’re Muslim or Methodist, or because a close family member is an alcoholic or was injured by a drunk driver – we are free to refuse to fix the plumbing in a bar, to give legal advice to Coors, or to refuse to let people carrying beer bottles onto our business property. To be sure, our right to freedom of choice may have been limited in some ways by bans on race discrimination, sex discrimination, religious discrimination, and the like. But whether right or wrong those bans still leave us mostly free to choose whom to do business with. The cab drivers thus want only the same kind of liberty that the rest of us generally have. Their argument isn’t a pure freedom of choice argument (which the law has rightly or wrongly denied to cabbies generally) but a freedom of choice argument coupled with a religious freedom argument; but that simply shows that this freedom of choice is even more important to them than it generally is to the rest of us. This doesn’t mean that they should win. Maybe there’s a really good reason for denying cabbies, including religious objectors, this freedom of choice when it comes to transporting alcohol. But it does cast a different light on objections to people “choosing [clients] according to [the choosers’] religious belief,” or “demand[ing] a ‘right’ to exist in a culture that mirrors their views.” No-one makes such objections when we as lawyers pick and choose our clients; no-one faults us for choosing them according to our religious beliefs (unless those beliefs require race or sex discrimination or such); no-one says that lawyers who refuse to work for alcohol distributors demand a right to exist in a culture that mirrors our views. Likewise, I don’t think it’s fair to condemn cabbies for seeking, in this one area that is unusually important to them, the same freedom that lawyers have. Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Marci Hamilton Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:59 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Requirement that cabbies transport alcohol = "tiny burden"? Why is anger at a publicly licensed cab picking and choosing passengers according to religious belief anything like anti-Muslim animus? Cabbies can't reject passengers on race. Why should they be able to reject those with religious beliefs different from their own? If they don't want to be in the company of nonbelievers, they should find another line of work. Also-- a number of imams announced the cabbies were misreading the Koran. There was no requirement they not transport others' cases of wine. No one was asking them to drink the wine We have crossed the line from legitimate claims to accommodation into the territory where religious believers demand a "right" to exist in a culture that mirrors their views. That is called Balkanization Marci _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. 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