Absolutely. They all have lobbyists. I don't view the term as necessarily perjorative. Just descriptive.
Marci A. Hamilton Verkuil Chair in Public Law Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School Yeshiva University @Marci_Hamilton On Dec 2, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Paul Horwitz <phorw...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm curious about how this response relates to your response to Chris Lund, > in which you cited the Madisonian assumption that every group will seek the > maximum amount of power. It reminded me of this profile of Valerie Jarrett: > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/02/us/politics/valerie-jarrett-is-the-other-power-in-the-west-wing.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&. > > > If Madison was right, then doesn't every group try to maximize its own power > and agenda? And doesn't every politically savvy group use lobbyists and other > means, such as inside power players, to that end? Does anything turn on > describing religious groups as having lobbyists and an agenda, and implying > that other groups are wholly selfless and decent? Or is that just semantic > advocacy? > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 12:45 PM, "Marci Hamilton" <hamilto...@aol.com> wrote: > >> The Texas municipal league and civil rights groups -- especially those >> protecting children's and women's and gay rights -- would disagree w the >> notion "substantial" is irrelevant. And the TX legislature had no interest, >> or so I am told by those groups on the ground in Texas. I don't want the >> listserv to have the impression that the state RFRA battles are being >> fought solely by law professors and religious lobbyists. The civil rights >> groups that initially backed RFRA >> have caught up to the agendas behind the veil >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Marci A. Hamilton >> Verkuil Chair in Public Law >> Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School >> Yeshiva University >> @Marci_Hamilton > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; > people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) > forward the messages to others.
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