What plausible reading of religious freedom empowers Ms. Davis to prohibit her 
deputies from issuing marriage licenses because of her religious objections to 
same sex marriage?  I am genuinely astonished by the persistent claim that, in 
the name of religious freedom, we should compel license applicants to go to 
another county to obtain marriage licenses lest Ms. Davis attribute their 
issuance by a Rowan county deputy clerk to her person.  It is the state of 
Kentucky, acting through the office of the county clerk, which issues the 
licenses.  Ms. Davis may assert in Kentucky courts or before the Kentucky 
legislature under KRFRA that she ought not to have to sign the license, or 
perhaps even that her name ought not even to appear on the licenses when issued 
by a deputy clerk.  But how can she be thought to have the right to forbid 
those employees from discharging their legal duty to issue those licenses or 
claim that their issuance of those licenses substantially burdens her religious 
exercise?

This thread lays bare the real import of a muscular reading of RFRA’s 
substantial burden test – implicit if not explicit in the defense of Ms. Davis 
is this proposition -- no matter how absurd the claim of a substantial burden 
may be, as long as it is advanced in good faith (i.e., sincerely), it simply 
does not matter that it is contrary to well established fact, the boundary 
between individual and government, or how attenuated its claim of causation may 
be.  All that matters is the governmental employee-objector’s belief that 
whatever it is that the government seeks to do, directly or indirectly 
substantially burdens her religious exercise.  Under that reading of KRFRA, the 
cogent explanations of why Ms. Davis should lose, repeatedly and clearly 
offered by Doug Laycock and Marty simply do not matter, for they rest upon the 
all but universal understanding that Ms. Davis and her office are distinct from 
each other.  But that is not her belief, and because she appears to sincerely 
hold the belief that nobody in her office can issue a license without 
associating her with irreligious conduct, thereby substantially burdening her 
religious exercise, this muscular understanding of KRFRA compels the state to 
accommodate her since it can always do so by imposing on those who seek a 
license the burden to travel to a different county.

Forgive me for thinking the argument is nonsensical, but I do.  It is at odds 
with ex Parte Young, which long ago drew the very distinction Ms. Davis seeks 
through KRFRA to obliterate.  But it is also at war with self-government 
because it puts the private self of a government official acting in her 
government capacity above the sovereignty of government, whether understood as 
state qua state or state as the people.  The people and state of Kentucky have 
decided that marriage licenses should be available through the office of a 
clerk in every county in the state; Ms. Davis would undo that decision based on 
her private faith, insisting that she must as a matter of private faith forbid 
her employees from carrying out their legal duties.  Did Congress or the state 
legislatures that enacted RFRAs intend by to equip every government 
officeholder and employee with a universal solvent for self-government subject 
only to a requirement of good faith and an all but unavailable defense of 
strict scrutiny?  Surely that is a bridge too far even under the most generous 
reading of RFRAs.  To be sure we do accommodate most government employees 
(though not Ms. Davis as an elected official) under Title VII, but under

Mike


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From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Will Esser
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 8:40 AM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

To Kevin's point, a somewhat similar accommodation is playing out in North 
Carolina.  As readers of this list will recall, North Carolina passed 
legislation which allows magistrates to opt out of performing any marriages, 
provided that each county was required to continue to make secular marriage 
services routinely available in each county.  Recently, all of the magistrates 
in one county (McDowell County) opted out of performing marriages.  However, 
marriages are still performed in McDowell County because magistrates in 
neighboring Rutherford County drive over on a regular weekly basis to make the 
marriage service available.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/30001008/mcdowell-co-magistrates-recuse-themselves-from-performing-same-sex-marriages



Not that this addresses the current procedural situation with Davis, but it 
certainly provides a model which the Kentucky legislature might consider during 
its next session.  Plus, as I understand Kevin's proposed accommodation, it has 
the added advantage of not even requiring government employee travel from one 
county to the next.  It would simply have deputy clerks in one county issue 
marriage licenses "under the authority of" a county clerk who had no religious 
objection to the issuance of the licenses, even if that county clerk happened 
to physically reside in another county.  As long as state law permitted such 
issuance and validity of the licenses, this seems like a reasonable solution.


Will Esser

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From: "Walsh, Kevin" <kwa...@richmond.edu<mailto:kwa...@richmond.edu>>
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

I agree that only the office holder gets an exemption, not a unit of 
government. My argument is premised on the office holder getting an exemption, 
and so is Davis's.

Once an office holder is recused, the question becomes who carries out the 
duties instead. That turns on who has legal authority.

If a federal trial judge recuses from a capital case because she cannot sign a 
death order as a matter of religious conscience, the case has to go to another 
judge. And that is so even though the recused judge has law clerks, a courtroom 
deputy, and other assistants who sign pieces of paper under the judge's 
authority. The judge's recusal takes out everyone in the chambers, as they have 
no authority independent of her. As I understand Davis's position on state law, 
the authority of her deputy clerks is related to the authority of her office as 
the authority of law clerks is related to the authority of the office of judge. 
The county clerk's recusal takes out everyone in the office, as they have no 
authority independent of her. These results follow from a _personal_ exemption, 
not one granted to _the office_ of district court judge or _the office_ of 
county clerk.

One pressure point on this position is Davis's understanding of state law. 
Marty has set out another reading that, if correct, would make the law clerk 
analogy inapposite. Deputy clerks can sign marriage licenses (whereas law 
clerks cannot sign death orders). But if Davis is right about state law, then 
the law clerk analogy holds. There is no more an Establishment Clause problem 
flowing from the need to bring in another judge than there is from the need to 
bring in another county clerk. If the substitution is seamless from the point 
of view of the applicant, as it would be if implemented in the manner I 
proposed, there are also no problems arising from the fact that the other 
clerk's geographic location may be distant. The licenses still get issued out 
of the recused clerk's physical plant, as if a substitute judge were sitting in 
a recused judge's courtroom and using the recused judge's staff.

Kevin


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Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 9:44 PM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Re: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

The judge who recuses does not try to prevent his whole court from deciding the 
death penalty case. He recuses himself, personally; he does not recuse the 
government authority.

Davis did not seek merely to recuse herself; she sought to prevent her whole 
office from issuing marriage licenses. And having them issued under the 
authority of another county is another way of disabling her whole office.

This is the fundamental confusion between the unit of government, which has no 
religion, and the office holder, who does. Whatever the Establishment Clause 
might say about the issue, the Kentucky RFRA analysis is clear -- only the 
office holder gets an exemption. Not the unit of government.




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