--- "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doesn't matter-in fact a repeater that's tied up all
> day with chatter 
> isn't available for emergency communications. Plus
> the more time it 
> spends keyed up, the less time till something fails.
> 
> -- 
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL
> 
> 
> Fred Flowers wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, but does anybody talk on all of them?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FCC considers
> Auxiliary Operation on 2M!
> >>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:01:15 -0400
> >>
> >>Joe Montierth wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>In many parts of the US the 2M band is
> under-utilized,
> >>>so I am not opposed to the idea, per-se. If
> everyone
> >>>used good common sense, there shouldn't be many
> >>>problems, but I can see how people feel about
> this
> >>>based on their local conditions.
> >>>
> >>>Joe
> >>>
> >>>Joe
> >>>
> >>
> >>I'd sure like to know where you're gettin the idea
> that 2M is
> >>'underutilized'! Everywhere I've been (in the US),
> there's plenty of
> >>repeaters. Most areas there's too many!
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jim Barbour
> >>WD8CHL
> >>

A couple of comments:

1. If I had an emergency, I would go to the channel
with the chatter on it, because that's where the
people are, and thats where you'll get a response. It
does no good to yell your brains out for help on a
"quiet" channel, if no one's there to answer you.

Also, as far as an unused repeater being less subject
to failure, this is just not true. A well designed
repeater will not "wear out" do to heavy use, ask
anyone on this board who runs a well designed system.
They're not afraid of people using it, or seeing it
keyed for hours at a time. If you had to have a
message hand delivered to someone two miles away,
would you give it to the "couch potato" or the
marathon runner? The couch potato should be all rested
and ready to run that 2 miles, and the marathon man
should be too worn out from his miles of practice in
the last few weeks. But reality tells us it's no sweat
for one of them, and a major challenge for the other.

2. One area where 2M is underutilized is here where I
live. I can hit 3 2M repeaters with a handheld, and
maybe 10 more with a good base. This is typical
throughout our county and neighboring counties. Our
county is the size of Connecticut. This is very
typical of the rural western states.

3. Repeaters aren't all there are on 2M. With the
normal bandplans being used today, there are at least
45 channels available for simplex use, exclusive of
any repeater input or output. Even if half these
channels were being used in any given area, that would
still mean over 20 vacant channels for new usage. In
most areas, over 90% of the simplex channels are
vacant 90% of the time.

4. In reality, the 2M repeater output channels that
were out of range from a certain location could be
used by aux type systems, with no interference caused
or received. The use of PL and/or DTMF or other codes
could further reduce this.

Joe


        
                
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