Yes, it is a sensitive adjustment.  How can an LO crystal not be either high
or low side injection?  When you order a receive crystal for a Mastr II or
Exec II radio, you must state whether it will be used for high or low side
injection.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathew Quaife
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:31 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not
working for GE EXEC II mobiles

I ordered just the xtals from them.  One the UHF version, the crystals that
I had tuned  them up are at 434.850, was neither high or low side injection.
The xtal that I put in this radio is at 434.875 MHz with a high side
injection.  Could it be that far off.
 
Mathew


Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        Mathew,
        
        Did you order just bare crystals to put in some existing channel
elements,
        or did you send the elements to Bomar and have them compensated with
the new
        crystals? That may be part of the problem, but usually the lack of
        compensation doesn't prevent the crystal from operating- it just
might allow
        them to drift more than the specified tolerance.
        
        Since the Exec II radio has tuning adjustments in both the
        oscillator-multiplier and the RF assembly, the non-operation may be
nothing
        more than a lack of tuning. If the previous frequencies are far
removed
        from the new frequencies, the tuning may be so far off that the
oscillator
        is not even working. What channel frequencies were used previously?
        
        It may be that some components may need to be changed to optimize
the radios
        for out-of-band operation.
        
        73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
        [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mathew Quaife
        Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:09 AM
        To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
        Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX
not
        working for GE EXEC II mobiles
        
        Thanks Chuck, found them in the list that was referenced. So these
are
        correct, why do they not work? Anyone with any good ideas?
        
        Mathew
        
        Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kelsey%40madbbs.com> >
wrote:
        
        For high side, high band -- F+11.2/9
        
        For high side, UHF -- F+11.2/27
        
        Chuck
        WB2EDV
        
        
        
        
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Mathew Quaife <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:n9lv%40yahoo.com>
> 
        To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
        <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > 
        Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:44 AM
        Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all
        the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles
        
        Thanks Chuck, that is what they sent me, so your math is
        just fine. Then there must be something I am missing. I can take one
of
        the old xtals and they work out just fine, so I know the receivers
are
        working. Might I ask what the formula you used was? It's been a long
time
        since I have calculated a crystal freq. so just need the formula
        configuration.
        
        Mathew
        
        Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kelsey%40madbbs.com> >
wrote:
        
        If my hasty math is correct:
        
        144.81 low side = 14.845555
        144.81 high side = 17.334444
        
        434.875 low side = 16.39537
        434.875 high side = 16.521296
        
        Chuck
        WB2EDV
        
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "n9lv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:n9lv%40yahoo.com> 
        <mailto:n9lv%40yahoo.com> >
        To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
        <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
        Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:40 AM
        Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered,
        all the RX not working 
        for GE EXEC II mobiles
        
        > Hope someone can help shed some light here. I
        ordered xtals from
        > Bomar (3 week wait) for the GE EXEC II mobile
        radios, 6 for RX for
        > 144.810 and one RX of 434.875, all high side
        injection. None of them
        > are working at all. At the same time I ordered tx
        xtals for the same
        > radio, they all work just fine. What might I be
        missing here, or did
        > they just cut them all wrong.
        >
        > Mathew
        
        


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