To <not always> I'd add:  *almost never*.

Laryn K8TVZ


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> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:19:52 -0500
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Height Gain figure
> So if the antenna is already at 1000 feet
> height and it is moved up another 100 feet to 1100 feet, you are
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> increase the range by 14 miles??
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> It is interesting to see the many responses, none of which I have
> problems with, but all seem to skirt your question.  If you are
moving the
> site any distance from the present site, then it is very true that these
> variables must be considered.  If you are moving only a very short
> distance from your current site, then, I believe what you are looking
> for is a simple formula to givr a close guess of what to expect.  I
> think you will find that should yout take the square root of the
change in
> height, in this case, the square root of 100 which is 10, and
mulitply that by
> the square root of 2, which is 1.414, you will come up with an
approximattion
> of 14 or so miles improvement.  Again, as others have pointed out, many
> variables inter into the equasion, but then, the bumble bee can not
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> At one
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> increasing the height. Of course at the moment I'm unable to locate
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> ie: If I move the same antenna (VHF 2m) up a hill and gain 100' of 
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> So... Anyone know what number is for gain as a function of height? or 
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