Correct, but if I remember you were claiming 3dB loss at the pass 
frequencies.  I was seeing about 1.5dB loss.  I claimed respectable 
results, not perfect results.  I think it is still acceptable for ham 
use.  Everything is a compromise when you push the equipment past it's 
limits, but the typical ham is frugal (aka me) and accepts a little 
degradation for economy.

73, Joe, K1ike
Another parsimonious Yankee ham.

73, Joe, K1ike

Eric Lemmon wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Your screen shots actually prove my point.  Both of the pass plots reveal
> that your duplexer's pass response is far from optimum, which is precisely
> the reason for selecting the proper duplexer model to tune.  If your
> duplexer was originally designed for operation in the 440-450 MHz band, the
> peak of the pass plots and the nadir of the notch plots would be exactly 5
> MHz apart.  Your TX pass plot shows that the peak is about 900 kHz to the
> left of your desired frequency, and your RX pass plot shows that the peak is
> off-scale to the right- considerably more than a MHz away from the desired
> frequency.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 6:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS TDE-7780A
>
>   
>
> Eric,
>
> I tuned up a 633-6A from a GR-300 recently and got some respectable 
> results. Pass frequency loss was around -1.5dB and notch loss was 
> around -85 to -90dB. I've attached the sweeps.
>
> 73, Joe, K1ike
>
> Eric Lemmon wrote:
>   
>> Paul,
>>
>> The Motorola TDE7780A duplexer is simply a relabeled Celwave 633-6A-2N
>>     
> unit,
>   
>> and it is designed for 450-470 MHz. It is the standard duplexer furnished
>> in GR300, GR1225, RKR1225, and CDR700 repeaters. The duplexer is okay for
>> non-critical use at low-density RF sites, such as at construction sites.
>> The compact mobile notch design has very little bandpass action, since its
>> operation is based solely upon the notch.
>>
>> I have tried to tune such duplexers down into the Amateur 70cm band, with
>> little success.
>>     
>
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