Oh, forgot to mention.  If you turn your unit upside-down, you should see
rubber plugs near the fed ends of each resonator.  You can fine-tweak the
taps through these holes.  It's pretty easy to break a wire, so I wouldn't
recommend you go in there and start twistin' and tweakin' with any
significant amount of force.  Adjusting the distance of the tap wire (center
conductor) from the resonator will have a small, but measurable, effect on
insertion loss and return loss.

3MB JPEG of a disassembled PD633: 

http://www.broadsci.com/foo/IMG_6010.jpg

3MB JPEG showing what happens when you mis-tune or over-power one of these
duplexers (capacitive loading slug and teflon insulator fried) - they are
NOT very forgiving:

http://www.broadsci.com/foo/IMG_6031.jpg

                                        --- Jeff WN3A
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff DePolo
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RFS TDE-7780A
> 
>   
> 
> 
> I've disassembled and compared the ham-split PD633-6A-1N and 
> regular 450-470
> PD633-6A-2N. The resonators are identical; they're the same 
> length. The
> difference is where they are tapped - the low-split model is 
> tapped about
> 1/4" further up the resonator than the 460 MHz version. The semi-rigid
> interconnect cables are slightly longer on the low-split 
> model as you might
> expect. I took pictures and started writing it up as an 
> article but never
> finished...
> 
> --- Jeff WN3A
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Joe
> > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:45 PM
> > To: [email protected] 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS TDE-7780A
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I wonder what they do to the internal coupling at the factory 
> > when they 
> > tune them. Maybe it is something that can be done in the 
> field with a 
> > little surgery?
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > Eric Lemmon wrote:
> > > Point taken. One factor that will directly affect how the 
> > subject duplexer
> > > will perform at 70cm is where the original factory tuning 
> > was. For example,
> > > if the factory tuning was in the 450-455 MHz band, such a 
> > duplexer will
> > > likely perform better at 70cm than will a duplexer that 
> > originally was
> > > factory-tuned for the 460-465 MHz band. The results I 
> > quoted were for a
> > > duplexer in the latter class.
> > >
> > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>  
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> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>  
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RFS TDE-7780A
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Correct, but if I remember you were claiming 3dB loss at the pass 
> > > frequencies. I was seeing about 1.5dB loss. I claimed respectable 
> > > results, not perfect results. I think it is still 
> > acceptable for ham 
> > > use. Everything is a compromise when you push the equipment 
> > past its 
> > > limits, but the typical ham is frugal (aka me) and 
> accepts a little 
> > > degradation for economy.
> > >
> > > 73, Joe, K1ike
> > > Another parsimonious Yankee ham.
> > >
> > > 73, Joe, K1ike
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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