On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 20:19 +0300, Janne Blomqvist wrote:
> Huh? That's a quite long-winded way of telling us that you didn't
> bother to read the linked article beyond extrapolating from the
> headline.

I read it.  I am also a MCITP on Windows Server 2008 (not that it
matters, I do it on my own time and dollar).  In any case, I keep up
with Microsoft developments.  In many cases, the "support" is
"under-delivered" in my experiences.  Of course, people can freely
assumed I'm biased, and I am in no position to answer for any
organization.

> Then again, why let such provincial matters get in the way of a rant. ;-)

I wasn't aware I was ranting.  My apologies if so.  I find that a bit
humorous in light of other posts, but my apologies if you feel so.

However, the Itanium issue (along with Xen) regularly comes up.  It is
then followed by FUD (which literally means fear, uncertainty and
doubt).

> To summarize, w2k8r2 is the last version of windows server to support
> itanium. Mainstream support will continue until 2013, and some kind of
> extended support until 2018. Doesn't really seem like a dramatically
> different way of abandoning ship than what Red Hat is doing.

What about W2K8R3?  Understand I was around for the mid-drop of non-x86
architectures in Windows NT as well, and had Alpha/NT platforms myself.
Losing support and having limited updates, especially when security
patches do slip, can be a major issue.

I would not have commented had I not run into it myself.

I think this just reminds me why I need to help clients and customers
individually and privately.  It's very easy for statements I never make
and threads I never start to be associated with myself.  ;)

> I don't particularly care about the fortunes of Itanium one way or the
> other; I see it as an interesting, though ultimately failed, computer
> science experiment.

As someone with an EE running Alpha at the time IA-64 was announced, and
Digital Semiconductor engineers publicly stating the EPIC and Branch
Predication will fail, I do agree.  However, there are still existing
customers involved, so I have no such luxury.  ;)

> Personally, I was happy when several years ago, we got rid of our last
> non-x86 servers; in our case, Digital Unix on Alpha.

Then you should remember when Microsoft "dropped the ball" on several
platforms mid-NT as well, correct?

Again, my mistake for posting.  It's just that I do deal with IA-64
right now, and have in the past, for my customers/clients.  I don't
think I was ranting in the least bit, and I think others were far more
involved than I.


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