And yes, I know what are you talking about and how right you are, but it sooo easy for you to say that now. I wish you or anyone else could tell me how it really feels to be where I am now and doing what I have to do now ... if anyone can imagine that or anything similar at all, let alone some constructive thoughts ... I will let you know if I find out, it would be nice to know. ZP.
2010/1/18 Zoran Popović <[email protected]> > > > 2010/1/18 John Haxby <[email protected]> > >> >> >> 2010/1/18 Zoran Popović <[email protected]> >> >> >>> I would imagine other vendors would offer me migration roadmap [...] >>> [B]eing informed years ahead what exact option he has. >>> >>> >> I've don't think I'm mis-quoting with those two phrases, but there are two >> separate things here. A migration "roadmap" (for want of a better word) and >> being informed well in advance. >> >> > Yes, I was writing something in distress, that is not what I was trying to > say - just erase that line in whatever memory it's stored ... > > >> You have a migration roadmap: it's implicit in the platform: the self-same >> operating system is available on Itanium and on x86_64. The same apps >> (more-or-less) are available on both; isn't migration straightfoward? I >> can't answer that, you'd have to ask the people responsible for the apps on >> your systems. >> >> > Yeah, I know that, as told previously - SAP + Oracle are main applications, > I have done many tests (and migrations, at least with Oracle), but that is > not the point - the main problem is that neither anyone here is willing here > to invest into different hardware architecture at the moment (everything is > HP based, so Itanium was a natural way) and that we need virtualization > technology for these systems, nor there is a will by key decision maker to > admit that Windows was a risky, if not very poor decision (it was planned > initially to be HP-UX). > > >> You have also been informed well in advance. RHEL5 support will continue >> until 2014 and RHEL6 hasn't even been announced as a beta yet. Do you >> expect your existing Itanium servers to keep running after 2014? I'm sure >> you can pay Red Hat to provide continued support after 2014 if that's the >> case -- ask Red Hat. And you haven't invested in Itanium for RHEL6 have >> you? >> >> > If it is possible - correct me if I'm wrong, after 2014 RHEL5 support will > be available only through OEMs ? I could imagine HP skinning us alive ... I > am satisfied with RHEL support so far, if that would be available after > 2014, then it's fine. > > >> >> I haven't seen a chorus of people calling for RHEL6 on Itanium either here >> or anywhere else. In fact I don't think I have seen anyone but you >> bemoaning this decision. Have you told your Red Hat contact what you >> think? What did they say (if its not under some NDA)? I wouldn't be at >> all surprised if the decision was that it's not economically sound to >> support a dwindling platform, that the sales of Itanium licenses don't >> justify the development costs. >> >> > Would anything change if we obtain development subscription ? How much does > it cost, give me a hint ? Ok, many things happened since I've met someone > from Red Hat last time (about a year ago) - the main problem is that I was > instructed by CIO not to contact them directly (only through support) for > some stupid reason, even though the local RH call center is right here in > the same city, few kilometers away ... that is why I am starting to ask > around for any other possible contact. Given all these facts, I was aware > already that there's nothing much to do, but if you have any idea ... ok, I > did find some pills ... > > >> Technically, it's a shame. Both Alpha and Itanium will be missed by many, >> but both have missed the boat. >> >> jch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rhelv5-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv5-list >> >> >
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