On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 01:17:01PM +0100, Zoran Popovi? wrote:
> 2010/1/18 John Haxby <[email protected]>
> > MS seem to be backing away from Itanium a little; not all flavours of
> > Win2k8 are available on Itanium and if you wanted to run virtualised
> > desktops on, say, Windows 7.
> 
> > Back in 2004 (http://tinyurl.com/ycbaf9k) microsoft were talking about
> > removing support for itanium 2, I don't know if that's still the case (or
> > even relevant) but anyway, the RHEL decision is most likely about the demand
> > they're seeing: next to none and certainly not enough to justify the costs.
> >
> >
> You have Enterprise Edition, Data Center Edition and wider AFAIK for Windows
> Server 2008, so I don't see this is a sign of backing off.
> I understand that business reasons are sufficient reality and I can even
> understand that I am a justified collateral damage in that story, but I am
> merely trying to find out if there are really no options left ... I would
> imagine other vendors would offer me migration roadmap like HP does for
> Alphas, or SAP for their BI and strategic management reporting, where
> customer always gets investment protection (even in special cases, at least
> I had that experience with backup solution when we had to migrate from EMC
> Legato bought from Hp to HP Data Protector) being informed years ahead what
> exact option he has.
> 
> Of course, I don't expect RH to redeem my hardware, but I would expect some
> level of alignment with other vendors (Intel, HP, Micro$oft, SAP) involved
> with Itanium, and I really don't understand how it is possible that Red Hat
> wouldn't event try to compete with HP-UX on Itanium when it is the only good
> alternative ? Please, note that I am not being hostile towards RH, on the
> contrary - I with all the heart with Red Hat as the leader of linux
> community in business and commercial domain (and as so, important in other
> domains), ever since first installations about eight years ago. I repeat, I
> am trying to hear some options, and willing to express strong disagreement
> in a constructive manner if I can achieve something ... I knew all the pros
> and cons with EPIC and RISC many years ago, and I am not blaming one with
> Alpha/VAX when deciding to move to Itanium, but if that one decides to move
> to Windows instead of HP-UX then it is a serious risk - now I am the one to
> pay somebody's decision. I was hoping I could rectify situation with RHEL,
> but it became very hard for me with this Itanium desupport ... are there any
> similar stories out there or should I just additionally shoot myself (into
> the foot) ?

Well, seems you don't need to worry about Microsoft gaining markeshare
on Itanium at Linux's expense any more:

http://blogs.technet.com/windowsserver/archive/2010/04/02/windows-server-2008-r2-to-phase-out-itanium.aspx


-- 
Janne Blomqvist

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