>You speak with forked tongue. You say keep religion out of it and then you >attribute your point to Jewish religious fanatics. ....
Correct,Sarah...It is the irony of zionism... >since Palestine does not exist except as a figment of your imagination >they can return to that figment but not so they can finish the job the >Grand Mufti attempted and failed at.... You have forgotten that grand Mufti was apponted by British occupiers not under Islamic sovereignty.... M.B.H.S. ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [RHETORIC] why he posted this crap- answer from Hal Smith Sent: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:03:16 -0500 From: sarah blum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, John Thornton wrote: > > >> This makes no sense. Were there no jews before 1948 when Israel was formed? >> Until only very recently in jewish history most jews opposed the creation >> of a jewish state. The Litvish and Hasidic jews were both primarily opposed >> to the creation of a jewish state before the return of the messiah was >> sacrilegious. Even today the Haredi are either neutral to or opposed to >> Zionism. The bible is not a tool to use to decide geo-political conflicts. >> It is a collection of myths from long ago and it is time to begin to treat >> it as such. > >You speak with forked tongue. You say keep religion out of it and then you >attribute your point to Jewish religious fanatics. Yes, we have them too. > > >> >> If the creation of Israel is just then displacing every white face in north >> America is equally just. Give it back to the native American population and >> then they can decide whether to let whites in or not. If you argue this is >> not the same you are correct only in one sense. Native Americans don't >> claim some all powerful man in the sky with a white beard "gave" it to >> them. They merely claim "ownership" because they truly populated a space >> void of humans. Opposing the return of north America to Native Americans >> while supporting the "return" of jews to Israel is amazingly hypocritical. >> Of course Israel was filled with "mere Arabs" while the US and Canada are >> filled with good white folks. We can't displace them. > >First of all he is a she. And secondly we don't get our title from the >Torah. We get our title from the United Nations and the League of Nations >before then with the Mandate. And thirdly, Jews fled to Israel just like >anyone crossing the border from Mexico or immigrating from wherever it was >your grandparents or great grandparents came from because it is a pretty >good bet they came from somewhere else. Arabs can't return if they swear >to destroy Israel and they can't go home if that isn't their home and >since Palestine does not exist except as a figment of your imagination >they can return to that figment but not so they can finish the job the >Grand Mufti attempted and failed at. > >Sarah > > ----- > / o o \ >===OO=====OO================================================== >http://pnews.org/ (links) >http://pnews.org/PhpWiki/ (West Coast News Wiki) >http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (East Coast News Wiki) >=============================================================== >Sub/Unsub [pnews-l - rhetoric] :: http://pnews.org/signup.shtml >=============================================================== > >================== > FIGHT THE RIGHT! >================== > > > > > _________________________________________________ Maktoob’s MediaRing gives you the best solution to expensive international calls. Now you can talk for hours and pay almost nothing http://www.maktoob.com/pc2phone/ ----- / o o \ ===OO=====OO================================================== http://pnews.org/ (links) http://pnews.org/PhpWiki/ (West Coast News Wiki) http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (East Coast News Wiki) =============================================================== Sub/Unsub [pnews-l - rhetoric] :: http://pnews.org/signup.shtml =============================================================== ================== FIGHT THE RIGHT! ==================
