Nonreality;324842 Wrote: 
> OK let me get this straight. People and lastfm tell you how to do your
> tags??? I've never had anything like that happen and if it did I'd tell
> them to b*** m*.  I'll tag the beatles as the penguins if I want to. 
> The day a service starts bugging me to fix my tags is the day that
> program goes away.  Now a suggestion would be ok mind you, but
> bugging,no way.

Well the service doesn't really bug you as much as they let you know
there is most likely something wrong with the tag. "And could you
please check it to make sure it is correct". This is just a little
banner that pops up above your now playing when it sees a tag that
doesn't look exactly right. Then if it is for a group that is in your
top 20 most played, the Group photo is replaced with a special Last.FM
Logo message that asks you to verify your tags.

I do kind of follow the idea or logic behind it as the service is
tacking "My Music" to which they are going to chart for me then compare
to everybody else to be able to build large charts of groups and to be
able to then group me with other users that have similar listening
habits and likes. Hard to do that if all my tags are custom labeled in
shorthand like LED for "Led Zeppelin" or Cops for "The Police".

I could as you say tell them to bugger off, but wasn't it my choice to
"Join" Last.FM and my choice to scrobber my Squeezeboxes? They made the
rules which I accepted before signing up and they are not charging be
anything to provide the service they provide. All they ask is that I
check my tags so they are accurate. It’s the members that can get a
little silly/crazy sometimes.

And I do see their point, to a point. And I really see Last.FM's point
since I started a group on Last.FM. One of the Jazz groups I enjoy is
"Flim & the BB's". I have seen them tagged in about 15 different ways
from the way I just typed it to "Flim And The Bee Bees" (which is way
wrong)!

I guess the real problem is that the only standard in tagging is within
each type of tagging standard (they couldn't even make up their minds
about that so we have 10 different systems) as to Field only because
one can fill that field with anything. There should be standards
defined for the publishing companies, artists, and mastering companies
to follow, that trickle all the way down to the end user tagging a
ripped file. Look at shopping for CDs and Vinyl, artists are listed by
last name and groups are listed by first word in the group. But what if
the group is the name of a person not in the group as in a person of
history or a fictional one from a movie?!?

I remove the "The" from in front of any group that has "The" as the
first word of the group (if I don't forget before hitting rip) and for
any group that is Somebody "and the" Whatevers, I always make the "and
the" lowercase whether the group or tag lookup does or not. Again I
think we need some standards, but that's just me. Maybe it’s the
Engineer in me that needs things to have at least some sort of order,
who knows. What I do know is that I have shifted my paradigm from
thinking of music as CDs and albums to thinking of them as songs by
artists. SqueezeCenter is now my music manager so to make that easy, I
need to tag properly so I am not forced to also have music managing
software when SC can really do it all as long as I take the time to tag
properly to get the result I want from SC.


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