Philip Meyer;455182 Wrote: > >ok, but i guess what i meant is it might not ALSO work with other apps > >that might be equally important to you, and/or you might get the > "wrong" > >genre entry reported, ie the secondary one, etc... meaning unwanted > >results that would be a pain to fix. > > > >as you pointed out elsewhere, itunes as an example doesn't work with > >separator characters, and likewise some apps wouldn't handle multiple > >frames right either. same thing. > > > In my experience, apps that don't support multiple tags will just read > the first tag for each item. So, I make the first genre the primary > genre, and additional genres are secondary information that better apps > can make use of. The effect is that lower quality apps, like iTunes, > don't look too bad. > > eg. Dire Straits - Alchemy, may have GENRE=Rock, GENRE=Live. In > iTunes, it would appear as an album under Rock genre. In SqueezeCenter, > I can make use of the additinal genre information to produce better > mixes, eg. Play random Rock music, but not live songs. > > If I used GENRE=Rock;Live, then in iTunes the album has a genre called > Rock;Live, which is naff. It means that if I try to browse all Rock > albums, I don't get to see this album, etc.
yep, i get all that and i agree. Philip Meyer;455182 Wrote: > > >having said that, the way i look at it is that the ARTIST ta denotes > >artist, and AA is just for placement. > Album Artist is not just about placement/sort ordering. It's meant to > be used for grouping differing artists on an album to appear as a single > album artist name. right. so in other words, to sort it where you want it. yes, i am not using an "artist" name specifically in all cases, but so what? whats the problem with making the AA tag put eg. all comedy albums together? don't misunderstand me, i am NOT saying my method is by spec or is how others should do it, or is how things were intended; its just how i see it and do it, it works for me given the environment and best of all it works to give the same exp across all apps. Philip Meyer;455182 Wrote: > If you want to tweak the sorting, use an Album Artist Sort tag (I > believe ALBUMARTISTSORT works). i don't need to and don't want to. AA does what i want and the method i use works with virtually EVERY other app out there, which is important to me since i want my library presented a certain way regardless of which app someone might use on it. AASORT is not going to be as broadly compatible. Philip Meyer;455182 Wrote: > > >i don't want "Rodney Dangerfield" followed by Rolling Stones. > >i want all the comedy grouped together in the list, thats the point. > > > You do know that Browse Albums supports different sorting modes - you > can sort by genre, artist, which would mean all comedy albums would be > grouped together and be sorted by album artist within that category? actually i didn't know that, but it doesn't make a difference, b/c other apps don't support it. c'est la vie. Philip Meyer;455182 Wrote: > If sorting Browse Albums by Artist, wouldn't you expect them to be > sorted by artist? Seems really bizarre to me. i share my music with really, a lot of people, and other the years my methods have gotten more and more advanced, and without exception, everyone likes it better haing the comedy stuff grouped together rather than randomly populating the list. and within comedy, it is alphabetical mind you. this way of doing it is somethng i started maybe ~1.5 years ago and thats the feedback from those who had it both ways. now, if i could control "special case" categories in SC, and simply list them at the top where the VA one is, and control what goes in it by AA tags, i might do that, but since that likely will never happen, i can live with this just fine, esp since it duplicates the actual browsing exp across apps. Philip Meyer;455182 Wrote: > > >i don't put "xmas" in AA tags, i use folder hierarchy for that. > > > So some of your library is categories by genre tags, some categoried by > album artist, and some categoried by folder name. Jeez, you like to be > different don't you! understand, we're talking apples and oranges here. for the purposes of browsing the albums (via artwork in an app) whether its SC or another app, its all arranged by AA tag, ALL of it. however, for the purposes of STORING my music, (in folders/dirs on a drive), its arranged in a semi-complex system of genre named folders and sub-folders. i do that b/c i can instantly make playlists that way that allow me to exclude xmas for instance, simply by where i file an album post-rip. i do not as yet really use genre *tags* for anything, they need a lot of work, but eventally i will do so. as to being different, yes i am sure i am in a minority compared to how most people bother with it, and i am even more sure you're in an even smaller minority given the lengths you go to to manage yours. :) -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 & sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.4b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67171 _______________________________________________ ripping mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/ripping
