I follow mainly the Facebook group because you can post images and videos of 
what's going on etc... and dmarc/dkim is bouncing most of my emails from in 
here anyway since it doesn't like conventional list servers and forwarded mail 
from a different server etc...

I was playing with Matrix last night and can see why it'd be better too.

Never heard of groups.io will have to go look see.

Cheers,
Gavin.


On 3 October 2022 3:41:32 PM NZDT, David Klann <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 10/2/22 18:43, wa7skg wrote:
>> I subscribe to over 50 ham radio, broadcast, and other activity
>related
>> forums on groups.io. It seems to be a fairly robust system, has a
>> calendar, file storage area, self-subscribe/unsubscribe, searchable
>> archives, flexible delivery, email and web based access, etc. There
>is a
>> free model for small and non-profit groups, and various tiers of paid
>> service depending on your needs. You can have public and private
>groups,
>> sub groups, various moderation levels and other features.
>> 
>> I manage half a dozen groups myself. I would encourage you to look
>into
>> it. Personally, I find it far superior to Google Groups and the old
>> Yahoo Groups platforms.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>
>+1 for groups.io. I would contribute actual money for a paid 
>subscription to groups.io. Oh! I just checked my groups.io account -- I
>
>am (and 4 other users are) already subscribed to "Rivendell". List
>owner 
>appears to be someone named "Jim W7RY". Jim are you listening here?
>
>Per option #3, I heartily urge avoiding yet another facebook group as
>an 
>email-based listserv replacement. I also urge consideration of Matrix 
>(matrix.org) as an alternative to email. I just created 
>#rivendell:matrix.org It's a public Matrix room which means anyone can 
>join and post messages.
>
>I'm eager to see what comes of this discussion!
>
>   ~David Klann
>
>
>> 
>> Fred Gleason wrote on 10/2/22 1:13 PM:
>>> Howdy Folks:
>>>
>>> Many of you here (especially those whose e-mail is delivered by via
>>> accounts hosted by Google) have likely noticed that the reliability
>of
>>> messages from this listserv has taken a significant nosedive over
>the
>>> past several months. After ~20 years of self-hosting this list and
>(for
>>> the past several months) spending many, many hours wrestling with
>>> obscure and intermittent bounces generated by Google’s MTAs, I’ve
>come
>>> to the conclusion that it’s time to move this service to a provider
>that
>>> has the requisite skills and resources to manage it in the “Google
>age”.
>>> Our options appear to be:
>>>
>>> 1) Host the existing list with a commercial company.
>>>
>>> 2) Move to a “non-commercial" existing listserv that has the
>available
>>> capacity and would be willing to take it on —e.g. an ‘edu’ type
>institution.
>>>
>>> 3) Move to some other, non-email based service (the FB Rivendell
>group
>>> is one that has come up as a possibility).
>>>
>>> WRT option 1), I’ve done some shopping around and found none with
>the
>>> needed functionality that would at the same time be affordable
>(really
>>> trying to avoid advertisement-based models).
>>>
>>> I’m open to ideas regarding the possibilities.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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