I typically advocate for open platforms vs. closed platforms, especially for communication around open source projects. I've seen too many projects and groups lose all of their archives because the provider goes away or is acquired. And that doesn't even account for walled gardens like fb which are never a good idea because of the exclusionary practices and the walls that prevent search engines from finding them. I don't know enough about groups.io to know if they allow bots to crawl so that answers can be found later, like they can on the current mailing list. But I have no visibility into any groups on facebook so then the same communication needs to be put in multiple places which is suboptimal and time-wasting.
There are things that can be done for mailman-based mailing lists to make them work with the idiocy of Google and Microsoft email policies. I encountered the same issue with MS blocking emails because people kept marking them as spam even though they signed up for the list and never even attempted clicking Unsubscribe. But, as was stated already: That's an admin thing that takes focus away from being productive elsewhere. Steve On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 11:21:58AM -0400, Rob Landry wrote: > > I have always refused to use Facebook. > > If you must move to a non-email platform, a Web-based solution would be > preferable. > > In the best of all possible worlds, I'd like to see people affected by > Google's attempt to monopolize email simply drop Google and move to another > email provider. > > > Rob > > -- > umar@python:~$ more stinking bills > more: stat of stinking failed: No such file or directory > more: stat of bills failed: No such file or directory > > On Sun, 2 Oct 2022, Fred Gleason wrote: > > > Howdy Folks: > > Many of you here (especially those whose e-mail is delivered by via > > accounts hosted by Google) have likely noticed > > that the reliability of messages from this listserv has taken a significant > > nosedive over the past several months. > > After ~20 years of self-hosting this list and (for the past several months) > > spending many, many hours wrestling with > > obscure and intermittent bounces generated by Google’s MTAs, I’ve come to > > the conclusion that it’s time to move this > > service to a provider that has the requisite skills and resources to manage > > it in the “Google age”. Our options appear > > to be: > > > > 1) Host the existing list with a commercial company. > > > > 2) Move to a “non-commercial" existing listserv that has the available > > capacity and would be willing to take it on > > —e.g. an ‘edu’ type institution. > > > > 3) Move to some other, non-email based service (the FB Rivendell group is > > one that has come up as a possibility). > > > > WRT option 1), I’ve done some shopping around and found none with the > > needed functionality that would at the same time > > be affordable (really trying to avoid advertisement-based models). > > > > I’m open to ideas regarding the possibilities. > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > |---------------------------------------------------------------------| > > | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | > > | | Paravel Systems | > > |---------------------------------------------------------------------| > > | A room without books is like a body without a soul. | > > | | > > | -- Cicero | > > |---------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev _______________________________________________ Rivendell-dev mailing list [email protected] http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
